SuperNova
Mar 27 2006, 11:06 PM
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The article:
Virtual Console: RarelessWell, here's something interesting from the Game Developers Conference 2006. Met with some Rare / Microsoft people who confirmed once and for all that Revolution's Virtual Console will not see any Rare-owned licenses. What does that mean? No-gos include Jet Force Gemini, Perfect Dark, Banjo-Kazooie, Banjo-Tooie, and Conker's Bad Fur Day. Not happening on Revolution. Neither are gamers likely to see Goldeneye 007, unless both Rare and new license holder EA commit it to Nintendo's platform.
On a brighter note, any title developed by Rare that is fully owned by Nintendo could very well show up on the Virtual Console. Donkey Kong 64. Diddy Kong Racing. You get the point.
I was looking forward to playing most of those.
edit: The worst part is that because I never bought an N64, I’ve never even had a chance to play them.
Mackilroy
Mar 27 2006, 11:35 PM
Grr.
Hopefully Nintendo will be able to get Goldeneye.
Anaxagoras
Mar 29 2006, 08:00 AM
Aw, man. Rare starts devving the shittiest games ever, and they won't let people play their older, much better games?
Eji1700
Mar 29 2006, 11:36 AM
QUOTE(Anaxagoras @ Mar 29 2006, 05:00 AM)

Aw, man. Rare starts devving the shittiest games ever, and they won't let people play their older, much better games?
DING! WINNER!
Perfect dark makes me sad as does the likely death of Killer Instinct. I also one day wanted to actually beat Jet Force Gemni since my friend owned it. Oh and I better be able to play diddy kong. ONE OF THESE DAYS I WILL GET YOU TT YOU CLOCK COUNTING BASTARD!
LoneIgadzra
Mar 29 2006, 01:18 PM
Saw it coming months ago. Luckily there are other old games I want to play, but it still blows, and Rare still sucks. Will their stuff be on the 360's service then?
~vIsitor~
Mar 29 2006, 01:39 PM
[RANT]
Well, Rare has only been making gawd-awful games since Micro$oft bought them out (yeah, bit surprise there), and since M$ has since entered the console market with the X-Box (and later the 360) it has to compete. With the upcoming Nintendo Revolution said to be completely backwards compatible (as opposed to that damned 360) M$ has decided to cut their losses and prevent Nintendo from letting their users play the classics.
You know what? If M$ starts to re-release these old games (with the exception of Conker's Bad Fur Day, they've already redone that one) lets make life as miserable as possible for them. Picket line in front of stores until they remove the re-releases, hide the copies behind the shelves, you get the picture. Lets not let M$ rob these classics of their heritage.
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LoneIgadzra
Mar 29 2006, 02:17 PM
Eh? They own that stuff and that's it. How is defiled? If I got a 360, I actually wouldn't mind being able to download and play Goldeneye. And I'm fairly certain when Nintendo dropped Rare they were already starting to suck. Wouldn't have been practical to keep Rare around just for Goldeneye. Anyway, those licenses are involved with like ten different companies so it's basically on total lockdown now. I seem to remember that Nintendo may even still have certain rights that prevent re-releases on Microsoft's part.
Derakon
Mar 29 2006, 03:18 PM
Y'know, Rare's already being punished enough; their games have been poor, so they aren't selling as well. Market forces. They're good to have. And if you think that Microsoft (and please, don't use "Micro$oft"; it just looks childish) just chooses to deny Goldeneye to Nintendo because they feel like it, think again. Not only do you have multiple conflicting licenses involved (there's the Bond license, for one), but also you can bet that Microsoft (or rather, Rare) would get royalty fees were Nintendo to use their game on the Revolution. There's opportunity costs associated with not selling your stuff, so again, Rare is getting "punished" by not making their stuff available. You don't need to organize any boycotts over this.
TheLoser
Mar 29 2006, 04:06 PM
I say we behind the shelves of Rare games, and when someone comes to buy them, we knock over the shelves and CRUSH THEM IN RARE!
Rickton
Mar 29 2006, 05:03 PM
Well at least all the old Sega games will be available.
Eji1700
Mar 29 2006, 06:57 PM
QUOTE(LoneIgadzra @ Mar 29 2006, 11:17 AM)

Eh? They own that stuff and that's it. How is defiled? If I got a 360, I actually wouldn't mind being able to download and play Goldeneye. And I'm fairly certain when Nintendo dropped Rare they were already starting to suck. Wouldn't have been practical to keep Rare around just for Goldeneye. Anyway, those licenses are involved with like ten different companies so it's basically on total lockdown now. I seem to remember that Nintendo may even still have certain rights that prevent re-releases on Microsoft's part.
Rare was workin on donkey kong racing and I can't remember their last release before that but in general they were all pretty good. Also they were working on the next perfect dark. The moment they moved to Xbox they made grabbed by the goonies which was their worst game to date. No matter what the reason rare has totally lost any credibility with me.
Anaxagoras
Mar 29 2006, 08:15 PM
QUOTE(Rickton @ Mar 29 2006, 04:03 PM)

Well at least all the old Sega games will be available.
Yeah, that's pretty badass. I've always wanted to finish Streets of Rage (I played it when I waw seven, and never finished).
Percy
Mar 29 2006, 08:41 PM
I never owned an N64 either, although I still had a chance to play Goldeneye at my cousins'. That had to be one of the best games! Do you know anybody who owns a subscription to Gametap? They might pick some of those up. They already have all of the Sega titles, I think.
LoneIgadzra
Mar 29 2006, 09:01 PM
All I want is Chrono Trigger and FF6. Granted, Perfect Dark used to be on that list, but you can't have everything. Square titles, at least, seem more likely since they aren't locked into making only Playstation games in the same way as Rare is owned by Microsoft. Both Nintendo and Square must know the demand is there, so we can only hope.
Anaxagoras
Mar 30 2006, 08:02 AM
QUOTE(LoneIgadzra @ Mar 29 2006, 08:01 PM)

Chrono Trigger
OMFG. That was the best game I ever played on a SNES.
lightfire
Apr 7 2006, 12:04 PM
Nobody said anything about Secret of Mana and it's non-US sequel, Seiken Densetsu 3 (SD 1 never in US either). I loved the sequel and it's a shame if Square doesn't rerelease those games with translations. Probably another addition to the PS3 market, if anything.
Derakon
Apr 7 2006, 01:51 PM
Random side-note: SD1 was known as Final Fantasy Adventure for the Gameboy. Note that only the first FFA game was in the Seiken Densetsu series; the remainder (FFA2 through FFA4, I believe) were part of the SaGa series, if I'm keeping my Square franchises straight. So: SD1 -> Gameboy as Final Fantasy Adventure. SD2 -> SNES as Secret of Mana. SD3 -> SNES as Seiken Densetsu 3 (no US release).
SuperNova
Apr 7 2006, 05:58 PM
QUOTE(Derakon @ Apr 7 2006, 11:51 AM)

Note that only the first FFA game was in the Seiken Densetsu series; the remainder (FFA2 through FFA4, I believe) were part of the SaGa series
Actually, the SaGa Gameboy games were released under the titles of Final Fantasy Legend 1, 2, and 3.
LoneIgadzra
Apr 7 2006, 08:11 PM
QUOTE(lightfire @ Apr 7 2006, 01:04 PM)

Nobody said anything about Secret of Mana and it's non-US sequel, Seiken Densetsu 3 (SD 1 never in US either). I loved the sequel and it's a shame if Square doesn't rerelease those games with translations. Probably another addition to the PS3 market, if anything.
No joke, SD3 was a great game, though perhaps not as memorable as SoM. I cannot fathom why it wasn't released in the U.S.
SuperNova
Apr 8 2006, 01:51 AM
QUOTE(LoneIgadzra @ Apr 7 2006, 06:11 PM)

No joke, SD3 was a great game, though perhaps not as memorable as SoM. I cannot fathom why it wasn't released in the U.S.
My theory:
I think that it wasn’t given a stateside release because, at about that same time, their US branch decided to make Secret of Evermore for no good reason other than to try and establish themselves as a true separate branch of the company instead of the mere localization experts they remain to this day.
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