Boris Yetskins
Apr 19 2006, 02:19 PM
I have finally installed classic on my computer. Took me a year to find the cd but I found it stashed in an unspeakable location. Now then, does anyone play starcraft over the internet?
God 2.0
Apr 19 2006, 03:56 PM
I hope you did not spend that year searching for Classic because you wanted to play Starcraft.
Starcraft IS OSX native now you know..
NebuchadnezzaR
Apr 19 2006, 04:46 PM
Classic as in not brood war. And yes, I do. I am Qist on USeast. I usually play BW, but have no reason to discriminate.
Boris Yetskins
Apr 19 2006, 08:17 PM
QUOTE(Knight of NI @ Apr 19 2006, 02:56 PM)

I hope you did not spend that year searching for Classic because you wanted to play Starcraft.
Starcraft IS OSX native now you know..
Are you serious? You mean to tell me I have spent a whole year searching for that blasted cd and now its mac os native? How might I ask?
The Apple Cøre
Apr 19 2006, 10:16 PM
My Starcraft/Battle.net info is in my "Interests" section.
Also, I do not sit idle on Battle.net, so you will need to either PM me or find me in #att.
Boris Yetskins
Apr 20 2006, 02:32 PM
I feel shame...
Modesty Blaise
Apr 20 2006, 03:10 PM
I play when I have time, but I need a new mouse.
Mine sticks half a second when I click the right mousebutton, so my micro is screwed.
I am Modesty at the European gateway btw.
Fnoigy
Apr 21 2006, 02:36 PM
I haven't played StarCraft online for a while, especially since the stupid school network blocks lots of ports.
Blizzard needs to put WOW down for a while and give us StarCraft 2.
And it seems that Blizzard is going to great lengths on their website to keep StarCraft: Ghost shoved under the table. It's not even on their "under development" list, and if you somehow search Google and find their website about it, it's very vague and all links on it lead to the main Blizzard page.
Boris Yetskins
Apr 21 2006, 02:56 PM
I hate to be an idiot but is there a cd thats mac osx native or what?
Croikle
Apr 21 2006, 03:02 PM
Use the link to the OSX Native Installer on
this page. It installs from your old Starcraft CDs. Of course, you'll want to go to battle.net and update after the install, but you already knew that.
Enjoy!
Fnoigy
Apr 22 2006, 03:13 PM
I wish the carbonized version had more efficient coding. It's annoying that it takes up 100% of the CPU and heats Zergling II up to 140 degrees.
FluffyWithTeeth
Apr 23 2006, 07:21 AM
QUOTE(Fnoigy @ Apr 21 2006, 08:36 PM)

I haven't played StarCraft online for a while, especially since the stupid school network blocks lots of ports.
Blizzard needs to put WOW down for a while and give us StarCraft 2.
And it seems that Blizzard is going to great lengths on their website to keep StarCraft: Ghost shoved under the table. It's not even on their "under development" list, and if you somehow search Google and find their website about it, it's very vague and all links on it lead to the main Blizzard page.
That's because it's not under development; Blizzard announced a while ago that's it's indefinitely suspended.
I'm now running odds on whether we'll get Duke Nukem Forever or Ghost first...
They should really just bite the bullet and make Starcraft 2. Oh, and everyone knows they're currently making Diablo 3, which will probably just be a WoW clone, and it's release will be based on whether Blizzard think it's worth running two MMORPGs.
God 2.0
Apr 23 2006, 01:51 PM
I can play Broodwar to "some" extent, but not regular Starcraft.
Starcraft 2 is not needed yet, considering Broodwar still is one of the most played RTSes in the world, along with War3.
TheLoser
Apr 23 2006, 07:01 PM
I really wish they weren't making D3, D2 has classic, pixely goodness.
Boris Yetskins
Apr 25 2006, 02:02 PM
When did this happen?
Anaxagoras
Apr 25 2006, 03:18 PM
QUOTE(FluffyWithTeeth @ Apr 23 2006, 07:21 AM)

Oh, and everyone knows they're currently making Diablo 3, which will probably just be a WoW clone, and it's release will be based on whether Blizzard think it's worth running two MMORPGs.
I hope they don't do that. I really do.
EVula
Apr 25 2006, 03:39 PM
QUOTE(Anaxagoras @ Apr 25 2006, 03:18 PM)

I hope they don't do that. I really do.
Personally, I was pissed when they picked WarCraft over Diablo to form the background of the MMORPG. I'd still love a Diablo-themed game.
Modesty Blaise
Apr 25 2006, 04:30 PM
I have just got a new favourite unit.
The allmighty science vessel. While I am still learning to play terran, I have just discovered the wonderful cloud of death this fantastic sphere can deal out at will.
I am struggling with the mirco, but they are still fantastic and really funny.
There is nothing like watching an ultralisk run around and kill all zerg troops around it.
mrxak
Apr 25 2006, 06:39 PM
QUOTE(EVula @ Apr 25 2006, 03:39 PM)

Personally, I was pissed when they picked WarCraft over Diablo to form the background of the MMORPG.
Me too, actually. But more because I enjoyed the Warcraft universe as an RTS, and wanted it to stay that way.
Fnoigy
Apr 26 2006, 06:12 PM
QUOTE(TheLoser @ Apr 23 2006, 07:01 PM)

I really wish they weren't making D3, D2 has classic, pixely goodness.
The first was even BETTER!
Boris Yetskins
Apr 30 2006, 02:26 PM
QUOTE(Croikle @ Apr 21 2006, 02:02 PM)

Use the link to the OSX Native Installer on
this page. It installs from your old Starcraft CDs. Of course, you'll want to go to battle.net and update after the install, but you already knew that.
Enjoy!
I bow down to your infinite wisdom.
Mackilroy
Apr 30 2006, 02:53 PM
I play Brood War on Battle.net… I'll see if I can find my original Starcraft CD.
Boris Yetskins
Apr 30 2006, 05:28 PM
I have downloaded the software update. Took about 30 minutes. Now then, what time are you all usually on?
Phyvo
May 4 2006, 04:48 PM
QUOTE(FluffyWithTeeth @ Apr 23 2006, 07:21 AM)

Oh, and everyone knows they're currently making Diablo 3, which will probably just be a WoW clone, and it's release will be based on whether Blizzard think it's worth running two MMORPGs.
Actually, Blizzard is not that dumb. Blizz has never developed content for two games at once in the same genre... You can see that just from their RTSes (Warcraft->Warcraft II->Starcraft->Warcraft III). It's all quite sequential. And you know that Blizz won't even think about Starcraft 2 until no one sells computers anymore which can't play Warcraft 3 at 90 fps with all the graphics settings turned on max. They're very careful about not competating with themselves.
Therefore, I think Diablo 3 is still going to be in much the same genre as Diablo 2. And for that I'm glad. I don't want it to be an MMORPG, because not only do MMORPGs make great sacrifices in terms of storytelling, gameplay, etc. etc. in order to be MMO, but everything that *is* MMO doesn't make the game a single bit more fun for me. All MMOs really do is eliminate the game list full of "Baal runs" or somesuch stuff (instead you just get people spamming chat) while tacking on a monthly fee which is ridiculously high.
I've played WoW, been addicted to it, and now I'm through with it. It's just not worth it, and for me no MMO is.
...
Oh, yeah, Starcraft on OS X. I play every so often as Captain Clod, but mostly I just do lurker defense. I'm too terrible at the actual game for the average good player to tolerate me, and too well too join the stupid 7vs1comp$$$$$OMG maps.
CJM2
May 4 2006, 05:15 PM
I enjoy the Phantom maps... Has anyone else played those?
I always made such a good job of convincing the other players to fight against each other when I was the phantom that, by the end of it, I only ever had to kill off 2 opponents which was easy enough...
Ahh good times ^^
adam_0
May 8 2006, 12:03 AM
QUOTE(CJM2 @ May 4 2006, 03:15 PM)

I enjoy the Phantom maps... Has anyone else played those?
I always made such a good job of convincing the other players to fight against each other when I was the phantom that, by the end of it, I only ever had to kill off 2 opponents which was easy enough...
Ahh good times ^^
I like The Thing the best. I can't compete with other people, as I can only win on big money maps, no rush maps, or 7v1 comp stomp cheap thingys (morale booster)
Modesty Blaise
May 8 2006, 05:21 AM
QUOTE(Rebelious @ May 8 2006, 05:03 AM)

I like The Thing the best. I can't compete with other people, as I can only win on big money maps, no rush maps, or 7v1 comp stomp cheap thingys (morale booster)

What is a rush map?
Phyvo
May 8 2006, 08:47 AM
No-rush maps are maps in which none of the players attack any other player for an allotted period of time, so that they can build up their forces. It's a newbie thing. They usually need the special map I guess in order to enforce the rule.
Rush maps, on the other hand, generally are tiny with the players fairly close together or even right next to one another. They are small enough that Terran players can take advantage of the fact that their construction units (SCVs) are better fighters than the other races' (something that doesn't really affect a normal game too much).
I just realized I mispelled "competing". Ouch...
Modesty Blaise
May 8 2006, 09:04 AM
No rush sounds weird. If you are up against an opponent with a similar skill level then there is no way a rush could kill you right away. That is if you scout and build well.
A rush map sounds ok actually. Sounds like intensive micro training.
Though zerg or terran might have an advantage.
Phyvo
May 8 2006, 09:37 AM
That's why it's generally considered a newbie thing. Newbies get owned by better players who actually have a significant number of units to attack with in 15 minutes when the newbie isn't ready to attack anything yet. In general, inexperianced players like to see a big clash in a game and do so by trying to "mass" things, i.e. 400 zerglings or 30 carriers. They then point an click, for the most part, and watch the pretty lights. That's also the logic behind "money" maps, which by having so many resources lying around allow you to do all that much faster even if you're not that good.
Average players don't really do "no-rush" games, since they've come to grips with the fact that the other person is allowed to start trying to kill you as soon as he wants.
The Apple Cøre
May 8 2006, 11:24 PM
QUOTE(Rebelious @ May 8 2006, 12:03 AM)

I like The Thing the best. I can't compete with other people, as I can only win on big money maps, no rush maps, or 7v1 comp stomp cheap thingys (morale booster) :P
There are good and bad variants of that map...
God 2.0
May 11 2006, 11:32 PM
Also, the player that has left the beginner stage has understood that the resource field is the main target of any attack force, and thus his defences should be placed in the resource field and/or in choke points.
I remember in my earliers games when I would blindly charge a terran block with everything I had against impossible odds, when a small drop-force could easily have performed amuch better attack.
The Apple Cøre
May 12 2006, 11:29 AM
Heh.
A nuke would do just as well, provided you could keep out of tank range.
_tycho61uk_
May 12 2006, 11:53 AM
I wouldn't mind playing that again. If you guys if want a game sometime, I would be interested (I play Zerg)
The Apple Cøre
May 12 2006, 12:29 PM
I believe this warrants an IRC channel.
Great. Another dying corner of the Web I get to command...
Boris Yetskins
May 12 2006, 02:09 PM
What IRC channel will that be?
The Apple Cøre
May 12 2006, 02:54 PM
Oh, right. #starcraft on irc.ambrosiasw.com/6667
Modesty Blaise
May 15 2006, 07:09 AM
Come on people. I am sitting idle in #starcraft all the time.
The Apple Cøre
May 15 2006, 02:05 PM
mrxak
May 15 2006, 03:53 PM
CJM2
May 16 2006, 03:55 PM
Not many people in there right now :-/
Rickton
May 17 2006, 04:47 PM
QUOTE(Phyvo @ May 4 2006, 05:48 PM)

It's just not worth it, and for me no MMO is.
That may change soon...
[/cryptic]
Clueless
May 18 2006, 07:30 AM
Yay, Starcraft. I just reinstalled using the really nifty OSX Installer, what a blast.
Does anybody know whether the Carbon version of Starcraft will get fooled by disk images like the Classic version did? The game seems to never spin down the CD when it's in the drive, it's friggin' loud!
God 2.0
May 18 2006, 07:49 AM
You can use disk images without any problems.
The Apple Cøre
May 18 2006, 01:04 PM
You cannot, however, use battlecruisers without any problems.
Clueless
May 19 2006, 08:29 AM
QUOTE('The Apple Cøre)
You cannot, however, use battlecruisers without any problems.
Against carriers, I can. Against that stupid massing of goliaths I can't, obviously, but I didn't know about that.
Modesty Blaise
May 19 2006, 10:01 AM
QUOTE(Clueless @ May 19 2006, 01:29 PM)

Against carriers, I can. Against that stupid massing of goliaths I can't, obviously, but I didn't know about that.
BCs are pretty difficult against carriers as they are too slow. The carriers can just harass you to death ignoring your BCs.
They are ok on island maps or in 4+ player FFA, but in a normal TvP you'll never see them.
The only matchup where I have seen consistent use of BCs, is late game TvT. Which I think is a very strategiv and fun mathup, but no one wants to play it with me..

sniff.
I am currently on vacation, but will be back tonight. If anyone want a game I'll try to hang out in #starcraft.
I play terran and toss mostly.
The Apple Cøre
May 21 2006, 01:17 AM
QUOTE(Clueless @ May 19 2006, 08:29 AM)

Against carriers, I can. Against that stupid massing of goliaths I can't, obviously, but I didn't know about that.
Oh, you don't like my gols? Have some wraiths. And some lockdowns. And a nuke while you're locked down.
Hint: hotkey your comsat stations. You don't want to be scrolling while your fleet is getting wraithpwn'd.
Clueless
May 21 2006, 08:26 AM
QUOTE(The Apple Cøre)
Oh, you don't like my gols? Have some wraiths. And some lockdowns. And a nuke while you're locked down.
Hint: hotkey your comsat stations. You don't want to be scrolling while your fleet is getting wraithpwn'd.
You, Sir, just made me aware of the fact that there is a hotkey function. Thank you. I feel dumb now.
M0ng00se_ona_Guitar
May 21 2006, 10:42 AM
Im a warcraft guy myself, but just the other day I found my old starcraft broodwar.
Woah.
The two are so different. Two years ago when I started playing warcraft, I failed so much because I was playing star craft all the time, now that I found my old cd, I can't even beat the computer at the custom games. The two have two entirely different resource mechanisms, minerals=gold but are mined like wood, vespene gas=lumber but is mined like gold. Also the building(verb) is just plain different than WCIII. RoC is more simalar to starcraft, but I don't have that anymore.
Any way, Starcraft was great, probably better than WCIII at first, but warcraft has just been the back bone of blizzard's updating schemes, (and I personally like the graphics on WCIII better than starcraft:P)
-Mongoose
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