I'm just looking for suggestions on a new game to buy for my shiny new Intel iMac. Since I've lost all my classic games I've been a little bored. Doesn't have to be UB, but not looking for anything online really. Also no Ambrosia Games, I've already got as many of them as I need

Thanks

Stubbs the Zombie is now just $20. Dunno if its Universal, though.

Command and Conquer Generals is a UB now, then Civilization IV, and grab Halo as well.

Don't forget Redline and Sketchfighter.

I had a similar situation; I started playing Alchemy. I still play Frozen Throne a lot-if you have enough RAM it's fine under Rosetta.

hmm, might check that out...




Not really a fan of C&C, but I may look into Civ 4, I remember them being fun




Last time I looked they were Ambrosia Games, and I own them both.




Ah yeah, haven't got around to installing Warcraft again yet, may do it at some point.


Thanks all....anyone else?

I would like to point out that WC3 TFT is for mac and PC. You don't need Rosetta.

Warcraft 3 is not yet a Universal Binary, so Intel Macs do indeed need to use Rosetta.

Back on topic, you should download Tremulous and BZFlag when you get the chance, 2 very fun open source games

Sim City 4, while not an action game or FPS is still a lot of fun, especially when drop meteors on the peoples. Fun.

It sadly, is not (yet?) Universal Binary. But it should run fine under Rosetta with some settings turned down.

Wingnuts 2, Star Conquest, Geneforge 4

The problem is, except for older 2D games, Rosetta is unacceptable. The general consensus is that WC3 performance is laughable (1 fps in a moderate-sized-battle-laughable). So the games-to-get list really becomes the extremely short list of UB games, especially if you want to show off your new computer's fancy 3D capabilities.

Starcraft and Diablo 2 both run fine under Rosetta (the latter in software mode only, and you need to download the OS X installers). Though being old, resolution-locked 2D games they will basically look less-than-impressive on a big iMac LCD.

I would think Halo and UT are right out due to the lack of UB, leaving Civ, Sim City 4 (UB patch is in the works IIRC), Call of Duty 2, The Sims 2 and Doom 3 for big name games. Oh, and WoW. (Though I would scratch Doom 3. Because it sucks.) C&C Generals isn't that bad, but it's sort of reviled in the PC community for some reason, so demo it first. For shareware, I'm not sure what all is out there, but Wingnuts 2 seems quite good (though the controls seem quite difficult for me, but then I'm playing on a MacBook). Here's a helpful list of UB games: http://guides.macrumors.com/Universal_Binary_Games

If, however, you don't mind installing boot camp (and XP isn't exactly cheap unless you already have one lying around), there is a huge world of cheap, easily-acquirable, and extremely awesome PC games that will run gloriously on your iMac. Provided they support wide screen. Otherwise they'll all be nice and stretched. If this option is enticing to you, I can provide you with a list of must-haves in every genre.

Wha?? Both Halo and UT2k4 are Universal Binaries.

Halo worked fine on under Rosetta on a friend's MacIntel anyway before it was even a UB.

Hmm, I don't have Rosetta and WC3 and TFT works just fine on my Intel Mac.

Wha???? If you have an Intel Mac you do have Rosetta. It doesn't start up like Classic does, it's always on. Wow I'm concerned about you guys, first LoneIgadzra saying Halo and UT2k4 aren't UB's while giving the link that says they are and now Boris saying his Intel Mac doesn't have Rosetta What's happening guys?!?

i think you've had enough coffee for today.

While I'd love to see it made UB, (something they have no plan to do) it runs perfectly acceptably on mine. It's slow for a brand-new computer, yes, but it's hardly "laughable." I have no trouble in arranged 3-person teams with protracted 6-way fights, something my G4 DOES hiccup on.

Edit: XMoto is LUDICROUSLY addictive.

If you can find them UB, there are some games I'd suggest:

C&C Renegade (FPS... awesome)
Conquest: Frontier Wars (Space Based RTS)
FF7 (Duh)
Halflife 2 (Also duh)

*tries to think of more*

Those are Windows games. Therefore the UB thing is a moot point. And if you're talking about "Final Fantasy" 7, I would argue do not - repeat do not - play the PC version. It's horrendously pixelated and integration of FMV's barely works. There is a project to re-write the engine to eliminate platform issues, but it's a long way from being done right now.

But yes, Half-Life 2 is amazing and a very good reason to use Boot Camp.

Try out Battle for Wesnoth. It's an open-source, turn based fantasy tactic game (sort of like Advance Wars on the Gameboy).

I swear to you, I don't have rosetta.

That's impossible!!!11!!!!1! *explodes*

Unless you completely screwed over your copy of Mac OS X, you have it. You may not realize you have it, but you do.

Meh. I didn't think Renegade was that great. Halo is far better, really, and now that it's only $20 there's no excuse not to own it.

If you are planning on dual-booting, Lucasarts recently released a game pack with the 5 best PC games from the last 5 years. $40, and worth it. (The games are JK2 Outcast, KOTOR, Republic Commando, Empire at War, and Battlefront 1. If you bought them individually it would come to about $100.) If you want HL2 (also for Wndows only, as far as I know) pick up the Half Life Holiday edition pack. (It's HL1: Source, HL2, Episode 1, CS:S and HL2 Deathmatch.)

You, sir, need to take a look at this conversion for C&C: Renegade. It isn't TOTALLY finished, but from what I can make of it, it is available for the public to screw around on.

Try playing Nova. If it opens and runs you have Rosetta. Have you used Office, or any adobe applications? If they work, you have Rosetta.

This is all true, as all Intel Macs have Rosetta, no exceptions. It may be possible to remove it, but that is something I've never looked into as I need Rosetta for some apps. Rosetta is invisible, you will never see it turn on. Activity Monitor will tell you if you are running Intel or PPC apps, if it says PPC you are using Rosetta.

Example:

Oops.



THis is very true, and it's too late. I have already been exposed to the PC version.



In very deed.

Could anyone point me in the direction of an Unreal Tournament demo download that actually works? The official one and the one linked on MGF won't unpack properly... :-/

It should probably also be mentioned that this game is more of a cult classic than top of the must-have FPS list. Came out a little ahead of its time, before multiplayer alone could carry it, and the single player kinda blows by modern standards.

I have an old ass mac, so I dont have rosetta. But three games you absolutely NEED:

Halo, 1&2
WC3 & TFT
Geneforge, 2-4.

Those games waste the hours away, the hours full of procrastination and boredom.
Avernum is okay, but the Geneforges have a much more gripping story line. WC3 and TFT are just time eaters, because every game is thirty minutes but feels like 5. Halo is just good.

MOngoose

My friend, with his Intregrated-Graphics Mac Mini, can play fine over LAN if he makes sure to shut down EVERYTHING else before starting Warcraft. It dos lag during battles a lot, but that is the GPU (or lack of), not the Rosetta-ness.


You have a MacBook Pro, right? That has a GPU. I think the reports that get attention are the "1 FPS with intregrated graphics!", not the "runs fine on a MBP". The latter won't be a big deal, it's an old game, it should run fine.


I agree


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It's kind of a moot point since WC3 is UB now, but I wanted to see WC3 for myself in Rosetta in my MB Pro, and I would describe it basically as ######ing slow. Second level of the Night Elf campaign was nearly unplayable.

um, if he still has rosetta but it was disabled by this program, then both of those posts were in fact completely correct.

anyhow, here's a rather useful page I found awhile back. I'm not sure of its accuracy (at the least, I know that while some people had no problem with EVN and Rosetta, others found it messed up), but it's a good place to start.

I've been looking at arcade games today and I can recommend trying out Enigmo 2 and Atlantis: Sky Patrol. Both have demos available from www.apple.com/games/demos.

As an aside, what is it with all those 'pop' games like Atlantis, Luxor, Pirate Poppers, etc, etc.. In a relatively short time a lot of the same type of game appears.

For single player: Geneforge (1-4), Wingnuts 2
Multiplayer: Mactrek. It has simple graphics (about like those of EVC), but the team gameplay can be pretty fun and there are usually people online to play with. I'm ZephyrFire on the pickled server, btw.

Incidentally, I have heard that the Halo UB is terrible. Is this true?

Yes. I tried running it on an iMac based on the admittedly-crappy E6300 with an ATI X1600 with 128 MB VRAM. It was laggy on all settings. It ran faster on a 800MHz G4 and ATI Mobility Radeon 7500. On my Windows PC with a 2.6 GHz P4 and X1600 Pro 512 it's smooth as glass on max settings.