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G-Spark
Rain is recycled through the water cycle. New water that generally stays is not created at high rates since old water is evaporated, forms clouds, and that then forms the new ocean water. The rain that fell into your backyard, could be the same water that fell into your great-grandmothers backyard. Here's my question.

If we pee during space travel, it gets ejected into space. Doesn't it seem like it's possible that in trillions of years from now we could pee away all of our water?
Pufer
What do you think they drink in space?

-Pufer
gray_shirt_ninja
Get out and take your stupid with you.
mrxak
Take your pick of answers:

1) Water is created all the time. Take a chemistry class.
2) It may be the only way to stop flooding if global warming actually happens.
3) The Earth is always picking up more mass, some of that is probably hydrogen and oxygen.
4) Except possibly for the Apollo program, I would expect most of that pee never actually gets an escape velocity out of the Earth's gravitational field. That rain falling on your backyard? Space pee.
5) A comet will collide with the planet first because we aren't looking at enough of the sky to see it coming, and it will deliver not only more water in the form of ice, but also horrible burning death for everyone on the planet (especially astronauts).
6) We will spread our population out among several planets, and several solar systems, each with its own plentiful sources of water, natural or manufactured. This is the primary benefit of space travel, and the reason astronauts are in space to begin with besides peeing. Being a multi-system species, we don't have to worry so much about running out of stuff or one major planetary crisis wiping us out.
7) Trillions of years from now, the sun will have absorbed the Earth hundreds of billions of years ago as a red giant, became a white dwarf, and faded into the darkness of the universe in the Big Freeze, or crushed in the Big Bounce only to form a new star in a new universe for new creatures to pee in space. Those creatures will not be troubled about peeing too much in space, because they know that such concerns are silly. If we end up with the Big Freeze instead of the Big Bounce, I assure you that entropy will be more of a concern to our distant star-faring descendants than how much they pee in space.

I would like to see them recycle their waste though, if only for making it easier to get to Mars or other places without easy resupply.
G-Spark
Ok, fine. I asked a stupid question. I also forgot about 7.
mrxak
The only stupid question is one I don't have fun answering in a comical but truthful way.

I still think this is the best urine topic (and probably only) since I asked the B&B to time how long it took them to do it.
SoItBegins
While we're at it, where's the bathroom on the starship Enterprise?
Rickton
Now this is a topic worthy of ATT.
See? They can be taught!
Mispeled
QUOTE(mrxak @ Dec 21 2007, 04:45 PM) *
I still think this is the best urine topic (and probably only) since I asked the B&B to time how long it took them to do it.

Dude, you forgot about PMCS!

If you're peeing in space, make sure you're not peeing into the wind. The gravitational pull of the sun could pull the pee right back in your face!
mrxak
QUOTE(SoItBegins @ Dec 21 2007, 05:56 PM) *
While we're at it, where's the bathroom on the starship Enterprise?


Which Enterprise? Also, it's called waste reclamation. See? Starfleet knows how to recycle their pee.

QUOTE(Mispeled @ Dec 21 2007, 09:52 PM) *
Dude, you forgot about PMCS!

If you're peeing in space, make sure you're not peeing into the wind. The gravitational pull of the sun could pull the pee right back in your face!


Oh yeah, PMCS.

And I think you mean that the high energy electrons and protons will push the pee into your face, not the gravitation.
lemonyscapegoat
hahahahahahaha.

Oh god this is the sort of thing that keeps me up terrified at night. Screw comets, gama ray bursts, supervolcanoes, and the magnetic field calling it quits. What if we pee away our friggin oceans. Yeah, I'm entirely serious.
zurdo
I thought this topic would be about the difficulties of using a urinal in zero gravity.
SoItBegins
QUOTE(mrxak @ Dec 22 2007, 12:49 AM) *
Which Enterprise?


Let's just say NCC-1701. The original.
Cosmic_Nusiance
This topic = laugh.gif

Also, there are no stupid questions. There's just a lot of curious idiots.
Pufer
It's, "There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots."

Anyway, speaking of toilets, I've been using my Toto Drake for about three months now and can honestly say that it works better than my old 6 gallon-per-flush 1960's vintage American Standard (much less any other low flow toilet). If we're worried about what to do with waste in space, we should just give the problem over to the Toto Company off in Kitakyushu, Japan. I have no doubt that they'll solve it without breaking a sweat.

-Pufer
zurdo
QUOTE(Pufer @ Dec 22 2007, 09:09 PM) *
I have no doubt that they'll solve it without breaking a sweat.


Sweat and urine are the same substance. No urine, no problem. Easy.

Astronauts need to follow the example of Danish astronomer Tycho Brahe and hold it as long as possible.
G-Spark
QUOTE(lemonyscapegoat @ Dec 22 2007, 11:36 AM) *
hahahahahahaha.

Oh god this is the sort of thing that keeps me up terrified at night. Screw comets, gama ray bursts, supervolcanoes, and the magnetic field calling it quits. What if we pee away our friggin oceans. Yeah, I'm entirely serious.
Oh yeah!

QUOTE(zurdo @ Dec 22 2007, 12:51 PM) *
I thought this topic would be about the difficulties of using a urinal in zero gravity.
Nope. Seems like that would be a problem too though.

QUOTE(Cosmic_Nusiance @ Dec 23 2007, 12:58 AM) *
This topic = laugh.gif

Also, there are no stupid questions. There's just a lot of curious idiots.
Yay Cosmic!
lemonyscapegoat
QUOTE(zurdo @ Dec 23 2007, 01:05 AM) *
Astronauts need to follow the example of Danish astronomer Tycho Brahe and hold it as long as possible.


laugh.gif
LNSU
You could just eject the pee forcefully into space to add momentum in the required direction.
zurdo
QUOTE(LNSU @ Dec 23 2007, 02:00 PM) *
You could just eject the pee forcefully into space to add momentum in the required direction.


Sounds like the space equivalent of throwing a bottle of it out the car window.
G-Spark
QUOTE(LNSU @ Dec 23 2007, 06:00 PM) *
You could just eject the pee forcefully into space to add momentum in the required direction.

Hahaha.
Cosmic_Nusiance
QUOTE(G-Spark @ Dec 24 2007, 12:25 PM) *
Hahaha.

Guys, this is a serious topic! What if all the oceans disappeared because some redneck astronaut had to take a piss?
Destroyer E
Are we off topic yet?
Mispeled
QUOTE(Destroyer E @ Dec 25 2007, 01:21 PM) *
Are we off topic yet?

This topic is far too important to be off of. Alert Al Gore and Michael Moore; we need a documentary.
Rickton
QUOTE(Cosmic_Nusiance @ Dec 25 2007, 08:27 AM) *
Guys, this is a serious topic! What if all the oceans disappeared because some redneck astronaut had to take a piss?

Because only rednecks pee?
Pufer
I'm thinking it has something to do with rednecks drinking ocean water.

-Pufer
Lektor
And an entire ocean's water at that, if it only takes one urination to make the oceans disappear!
mrxak
QUOTE(Mispeled @ Dec 25 2007, 02:28 PM) *
This topic is far too important to be off of. Alert Al Gore and Michael Moore; we need a documentary.


If the result is both of them being ejected into space, I'm all for it.
G-Spark
QUOTE(Mispeled @ Dec 25 2007, 03:28 PM) *
This topic is far too important to be off of. Alert Al Gore and Michael Moore; we need a documentary.

This topic is important?
Rickton
QUOTE(G-Spark @ Dec 27 2007, 03:30 PM) *
This topic is important?

Not, like, the topic, but the topic of discussion.
G-Spark
QUOTE(Rickton @ Dec 27 2007, 05:43 PM) *
Not, like, the topic, but the topic of discussion.
What? Oh, you mean the general topic that we're talking about, and not the actual topic in question?
zurdo
QUOTE(G-Spark @ Dec 27 2007, 05:47 PM) *
What? Oh, you mean the general topic that we're talking about, and not the actual topic in question?


The topic of discussion is space-pee stealing our water. The
QUOTE
topic
is http://www.ambrosiasw.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=117235. I think that's what Rickton means.
G-Spark
??? I still don't get it. That's the beginning of this one.
Buffalo the Kid
The idea being discussed, not the location of the discussion on the forums.

The first post states that idea.

Thats why he led you to it.






HUZZAH FOR NERVE DAMAGE! I can't feel my little finger...
Pufer
QUOTE(Buffalo the Kid @ Dec 27 2007, 09:51 PM) *
HUZZAH FOR NERVE DAMAGE! I can't feel my little finger...


"Nope, nope. I can feel all the rest of my fingers when I rub them, but not my little finger. That's just wierd."

-Pufer
mrxak
Somebody clearly needs to photoshop up some sort of an old 1950s-style sci fi movie poster with big words "PEEING IN SPACE!" with aliens peeing on an astronaut on the moon or something.
Rickton

Is a bit tempting but on the other hand that would just be kinda gross.
And not in space.
mrxak
Oh man, that is a classic. There really probably is something like I've described already, or at least pretty darn close. I wish I could find a decent website devoted to 1950s sci-fi movie posters.
The Real Darth Bob
Is someone working on a remake of that movie, or have I gone mad?
G-Spark
I think you've gone mad. laugh.gif
Pufer
They remade it in the 90's starring Daryl Hannah. We don't need another one.

-Pufer
Lektor
Did we need that one? Or indeed the original...
G-Spark
The originals are usually cooler, and the remakes are funnier. Look at the remake for Around the World in 80 Days, and The Pink Panther. The remake was usually funnier.
Pufer
First off, the Jackie Chan version of 80 Days doesn't even qualify as a remake of the original. The original won five academy awards and was an admirable recreation of the novel. The Jackie Chan one just wasn't very good, had nothing to do with the story, and was one of the most unsuccessful movies in Disney history.

Second, Peter Sellers > Steve Martin. The Martin remake absolutely was not funnier than the original.

Third, they were actually serious (as much as they could be) with the Daryl Hannah one. They made a straight-up spoof version a couple years later (or before, but who cares).

-Pufer
G-Spark
Picky, picky, picky.
Lektor
I agree with everything Pufer is saying in that post.

Plus there is no way in hell you can say the original Ocean's Eleven was cooler than the remake. NO WAY.
zurdo
QUOTE(G-Spark @ Jan 19 2008, 08:47 AM) *
Each to his own...

Each to his own...


That's not how the expression goes...

I'm very particular about how people dot their ts and cross their i's.
G-Spark
That's how I say it. tongue.gif I didn't remember how the actual phrase went.
sume diang
QUOTE(Pufer @ Jan 19 2008, 02:40 AM) *
First off, the Jackie Chan version of 80 Days doesn't even qualify as a remake of the original. The original won five academy awards and was an admirable recreation of the novel. The Jackie Chan one just wasn't very good, had nothing to do with the story, and was one of the most unsuccessful movies in Disney history.

Second, Peter Sellers > Steve Martin. The Martin remake absolutely was not funnier than the original.

Third, they were actually serious (as much as they could be) with the Daryl Hannah one. They made a straight-up spoof version a couple years later (or before, but who cares).

-Pufer



And hey, who can forget Arnold Schwarzenegger in 80 Days? What a laugh! laugh.gif

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-Sume
Disney Movie Club
Captain Zaphod Beeblebrox
Just hearing his voice makes me laugh!

"I am Arnold Schwarzenegger, AAAUUU!"

Yeah, that's pronounced Ow, but....
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