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spyker
So, I just got a PS3. If anyone has one add me on PSN, BurntOrange32. I'm loving it so far. I've got Motorstorm, Uncharted, Ratchet+Clank, and Warhawk. All great games.
spamguy
That makes you the first person I've encountered to get one. I've heard someone describe the PS3's graphics as not better but 'shinier.' Agree/disagree?
Rickton
The PS3 is still being sold?
Mackilroy
spamguy: I have one, and I agree with the shiny/not better statement.
UE_Research & Development
I was at my local GameStop today, and there was a sign on the PS3 display:

"Buy one PS3, get a Blu-Ray disc player free!"
JoshTigerheart
I have a Wii and six games. Even at the PS3's reduced price, I still bet I haven't spent as much as he did on his PS3 and 4 games. tongue.gif
spamguy
Until the PS3's sold for $10 and a free puppy, I'm not touching the damn things. Kaz Hirai's horrific presentation at the 2006 E3 pretty much ruined any future awesomeness (little of that that there is).

Giant enemy crab!
GutlessWonder
QUOTE(spamguy @ Dec 31 2007, 06:24 PM) *
Until the PS3's given away for free every time you donate $10 to a pet rescue agency...



That's what I'm shooting for. Maybe I'll get lucky and be able to win one for free like I did with my PS2.
spamguy
QUOTE(GutlessWonder @ Jan 1 2008, 09:03 AM) *
That's what I'm shooting for. Maybe I'll get lucky and be able to win one for free like I did with my PS2.


Sure, in the real world, abandoned puppies suffer horrible fates, etc. etc. etc. But in my fantasy land, Sony has an inexhaustible supply of puppies to accompany bargain bin PS3s, and everyone that buys the package loves their puppies with all their hearts.

Plus the puppies come with laser beams on their heads.
Eji1700
my rooomate got one. It currently sits there and is basically a dedicated computer for folding at home. Nothing else.
Neptune
My brother-in-law has one, along with an Xbox 360. As far as I know he only uses them for Blu-Ray and HDDVD.
Shlimazel
Would anyone mind if I asked a question?

I'm looking at PS3's because the failiure rate on xbox 360's is so high, and the technical support seems to be pretty crappy. I do love Halo, but I'm not willing to buy a shoddy piece of equipment just to run its sequals. I wanted to know if the PS3 will work with a non HD capable TV, and if so how much better are the graphics then on a PS2.
Mackilroy
No, you're forbidden from asking questions. tongue.gif

All jokes aside, the graphics are still better, the only difference going from HD to SD is the resolution.

I might add that the hardware problems of the Xbox 360 are overblown considerably. I've had two, and neither has had a single problem – one of them was purchased less than two months after launch.
Shlimazel
Ok, thanks. I wasn't sure if it would work with my TV, and that is obviously an important consideration. Really? That's the only advantage of HD? Strange.

Yeah? It seems like most of the people here have had a good overall experience with the Xbox 360. I just feel that it is a bit of a risk to take on this product, considering the amount of money involved.
Rickton
QUOTE(Shlimazel @ Jan 5 2008, 12:32 PM) *
Ok, thanks. I wasn't sure if it would work with my TV, and that is obviously an important consideration. Really? That's the only advantage of HD? Strange.

Yeah? It seems like most of the people here have had a good overall experience with the Xbox 360. I just feel that it is a bit of a risk to take on this product, considering the amount of money involved.

If your 360 dies Microsoft will replace it.
And they might even give you a free month of Xbox Live to go with it.
Shlimazel
Frankly, I don't trust microsoft to replace my stuff. Actually, I don't trust microsoft period. The main reason I wanted a Xbox 360 was to play Halo 2&3, but since I've gotten into Half-Life, the Orange Box for PS3 is looking more and more like a stand-in for Halo 3.
Mackilroy
RE: the amount of money involved - the Xbox 360 is cheaper than the PS3. Also, I've heard a number of statements saying the Orange Box on 360 runs better than on the PS3. But YMMV.
darth_vader
QUOTE(Shlimazel @ Jan 5 2008, 11:32 AM) *
Ok, thanks. I wasn't sure if it would work with my TV, and that is obviously an important consideration. Really? That's the only advantage of HD? Strange.

Yeah? It seems like most of the people here have had a good overall experience with the Xbox 360. I just feel that it is a bit of a risk to take on this product, considering the amount of money involved.


I wouldn't say that there's much risk. There's always a chance that equiptment will die, but it's not as much of a chance as 360 haters make it out to be. Furthermore, while it is stupid to get a 360 just to play Halo 3, it's also stupid to get a PS3 just to play Uncharted. As for resolution, it's a pretty big advantage. There's a huge difference between 1920x1080 (1080p) or even 1280x720 (720p), and 640x480 (Standard definition).

QUOTE(Shlimazel @ Jan 5 2008, 12:12 PM) *
Frankly, I don't trust microsoft to replace my stuff. Actually, I don't trust microsoft period. The main reason I wanted a Xbox 360 was to play Halo 2&3, but since I've gotten into Half-Life, the Orange Box for PS3 is looking more and more like a stand-in for Halo 3.


Orange Box runs terribly on the PS3 (15-20 second load times for tiny Portal maps) , and not all that well on the 360 (about 5-6 second load times on Portal maps. For comparison, my 4 year old PC loads it in 3-4). Just get it on PC. You'll spend less and get more. Spending hundreds on a console to play a PC game on it isn't a good way to use the money. I agree that Half-Life is better than Halo, but it should be played on PC. If you have your heart set on a console, the 360 is a better deal.
Rickton
QUOTE(Shlimazel @ Jan 5 2008, 01:12 PM) *
Frankly, I don't trust microsoft to replace my stuff. Actually, I don't trust microsoft period. The main reason I wanted a Xbox 360 was to play Halo 2&3, but since I've gotten into Half-Life, the Orange Box for PS3 is looking more and more like a stand-in for Halo 3.

They definitely replace it. I know quite a few people who have haid theirs replaced.
(Also, Halo 2 is on Xbox, not 360. But it's really not worth playing.)
Shlimazel
I've done a lot of research, and overall the Xbox 360 just does not seem like a good buy to me. Probably in the future I will get one, but right now the PS3 seems like it'd fulfill my needs better. Thanks for the info, though, guys. I will remember it for future consideration.

Here's an example of why I'm leery of buying one.

This article is also interesting, though I'm sure it is a far from typical situation. Don't bother with the comments, they get pretty idiotic pretty quick.
darth_vader
One thing I did just think of is that the PS3 supports mouse and keyboard, which is really nice feature, and necessary for some games, like UT3. If Orange Box could be played with a mouse and keyboard on the PS3, it might be worth it.
Shlimazel
Do you mean a USB keyboard and mouse, or that nifty mouse-controller for PS3? That thing is cool.
spyker
QUOTE(Shlimazel @ Jan 5 2008, 02:45 PM) *
I've done a lot of research, and overall the Xbox 360 just does not seem like a good buy to me. Probably in the future I will get one, but right now the PS3 seems like it'd fulfill my needs better. Thanks for the info, though, guys. I will remember it for future consideration.


A 360 is about the best choice for most people, but I like my PS3 a lot better than a 360. Mostly because I like the games on it, as well as the sweet ones coming out.
n00ser
QUOTE(Shlimazel @ Jan 5 2008, 03:45 PM) *
Here's an example of why I'm leery of buying one.


I wouldn't trust that entry; it's pretty much all that is wrong with wikipedia. Its "source" for that red ring of death statistic is a website called "xboxredringofdeath.com" which states the statistic... but not where it comes from.
Sponge Tom
I saw on the news a whole segment about people who got the red ring of death. It's not something that's made up. A friend of mine got it on his 360 too.
Mackilroy
We've never said it's made up, we're saying it's overblown, like most problems are.
Rickton
And as I've said before, even if you do get the red ring of death, your Xbox will be replaced.
n00ser
QUOTE(Sponge Tom @ Jan 12 2008, 05:52 PM) *
I saw on the news a whole segment about people who got the red ring of death. It's not something that's made up. A friend of mine got it on his 360 too.



My best friend had two 360s get the red ring. They've both been replaced for free. Due to another hardware failure, he is now on his fourth 360, and hasn't had to pay a dime since its original purchase.

Given other personal experiences with similar events, I'd say Microsoft is reliable in this aspect.

Regardless, now that Blu-ray has won, I think we'll see a rise in PS3 popularity.
JoshTigerheart
Four red rings? Even if it is free, is that worth all that trouble?
spamguy
A:
QUOTE(n00ser @ Jan 14 2008, 11:07 AM) *
Due to another hardware failure, he is now on his fourth 360


B:
QUOTE
Given other personal experiences with similar events, I'd say Microsoft is reliable in this aspect


A -/-> B
n00ser
QUOTE(JoshTigerheart @ Jan 14 2008, 01:17 PM) *
Four red rings? Even if it is free, is that worth all that trouble?


It was two, and considering how much use he gets out of the console, I'd say yes.

QUOTE(spamguy @ Jan 14 2008, 05:01 PM) *
/snip


Epic context rape.
spamguy
QUOTE(n00ser @ Jan 14 2008, 07:28 PM) *
Epic context rape.


Is it? No company that manufactures equipment that fails four times straight for one person or 11 times for another should be called reliable. It doesn't matter what you write between phrase A and phrase B. 'They replaced my broken consoles,' 'They massaged my feet,' 'They same-day-delivered me 72 virgins.' They're still unreliable to the point that they make shoddy consoles and don't take notice for an unacceptable amount of time. What you encountered is a reliable marketing division.
JoshTigerheart
QUOTE(n00ser @ Jan 14 2008, 07:28 PM) *
It was two, and considering how much use he gets out of the console, I'd say yes.


You said he was on his fourth. So I guess I meant three...
Mackilroy
Better they replace them for free than do nothing, don't you think?

On the flip side, I've had two Xbox 360s without a single issue.
JoshTigerheart
I'd rather not have to replace a console at all. I have yet to own a console that has malfunctioned without receiving physical abuse, and I'd like it to stay that way.
Warlord Mike
QUOTE(JoshTigerheart @ Jan 14 2008, 10:57 PM) *
I'd rather not have to replace a console at all. I have yet to own a console that has malfunctioned without receiving physical abuse, and I'd like it to stay that way.

Same here! smile.gif

However, I've noted that some GCN games I've used on it seem to always have corrupted data. Or maybe it's just my 1000+ block memory card.

So, on a slightly related note, Josh, have you run into that? If so, do you know how to fix it?

The best I can do is spray some Windex on the discs and hope for the best.
JoshTigerheart
It's probably the memory card, never had that with my GC. Occasionally the Wii fails to recognize my 3rd party card, but I just take it out and put it back in and everything is fine. It has no issues with the 1st party cards, so I assume it's something programmed wrong in the 3rd party one.
n00ser
QUOTE(spamguy @ Jan 14 2008, 09:11 PM) *
Is it? No company that manufactures equipment that fails four times straight for one person or 11 times for another should be called reliable. It doesn't matter what you write between phrase A and phrase B. 'They replaced my broken consoles,' 'They massaged my feet,' 'They same-day-delivered me 72 virgins.' They're still unreliable to the point that they make shoddy consoles and don't take notice for an unacceptable amount of time. What you encountered is a reliable marketing division.


Yes it is, because right in my post I clearly stated "Microsoft is reliable in this aspect," obviously referring to the replacement of malfunctioning 360s.

The bolded statement is the only sentence that actually applies to my post.
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