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Jack
I just found out that the suggested retail price of Nintendo's Gamecube will be $199. I was going to buy a PS2, when it went down in price, but now I think I'll buy the cube, seeing as I already have a controller (Gameboy Advance). Does anybody else plan on being cheap? Only $199

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As a long time Sega loyalist, I think I'd rather go for a PS2 to continue fighting against Nintendo's dominance of the market.

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I could never settle for a PS2. I would always have someone nagging me to play thier DVD, and PS2 doesn't have net play. The Cube will have net play, an it doesn't play DVDs. Who would want a DVD player in their game system anyway? It's not worth it, and it costs more.

The Cube will have a G3 processor(Hooray Macintosh!!). I don't know what the PS2 has, but the cube is already faster, it is already easily rendering 9 million pollygons at 60 frames per second, and that means smoother, faster, and better gameplay. That's faster than the PS2. It's the Cube for me.

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I heard that the Gamecube is going to initially be coming out with only 7 games and these games are probably going to be geared towards Nintendo's 13-year-old audience. The Xbox is coming out 3 days after the gcube and will probably be much cooler; however, you would then be supporting the omnipresent MS empire.

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The X-box sucks, if you do any research on it, you'll see my point.

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The X box is one giant horrific looking piece of hardware, its controllers look like they took everything off every other console controller out there and cramed it into one. and the stats for it aren't that super also, I see they like to flaunt about its Intel 733MHz processor, i guess bigger numbers impress people.
Although I have a PS2, i'd like to get my hands on a Gamecube too. Just because of the kinds of games only brought out for each particular console.

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/me is going for the gamecube in addition to my NES, SNES, and N64. /me is a strict Nintendo loyalist.

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Intel 733's are slow, at least compared to macintosh processors. My 533 G4 could easily toast an Intel 733.


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Originally posted by Pikeman:
/me is going for the gamecube in addition to my NES, SNES, and N64.  /me is a strict Nintendo loyalist.    


I love Nintendo too.

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When i first heard that Nintendo was trying to undercut Sony by over $100, i thought that they could never do it. And i still think its complete crap. With how good the cube is coming along its hard to believe that they want to sell it for $199. I guess they're hoping to sell alot of 'em, and i mean alot. But i dont thnk it will sell ungodly well, but it would if Nintendo's games were geared for a older than 13 audience. Nintendo really needs more games like "Conker's Bad fur day"...well, maybe not THAT adult. they at least need more games rated "M"....maybe they could be the first console with an "adults only" rated game!

But from a technical standpoint the Cube is kickin ass. Like Capt. Editor said, its rendering 9 million pollygons at 60 FPS. And thats a hell of alot.

Im gonna buy a cube, i just hope that Nintendo gets its act together, they were leading the console market a few years ago, but then they started making more kiddie games than adult/teen-oriented ones. Then Sony and Sega took the lead.

There are a few reasons to get a cube though, and those are simply put as: Super Smash Bros 2 (the 1st one was reason enough to get a N64), new Zelda, New Metroid, and Starfox RPG.

And if you're planning to get a PS2, dont hesatate, it will be more than worth your 300 greenbacks and will tide you over till the cube is out.

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Originally posted by Capt. Editor:
The Cube will have a G3 processor(Hooray Macintosh!!).


You mean hooray Motorola.

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Hrm..I have been thinking about which console I'm gonna get for a long time. I was tempted by the PS2 with it's backwards compatibility (meaning a wealth of good games already) as well as amazing titles such as Midnight Club Racer, Tekken Tag, Warriors of Might and Magic, Quake 3, Unreal Tournament etc etc. It also has internet support, you just have to by a seperate digital modem for it (like you had to for the Dreamcast). Plus, it's got a DVD player. Frankly, apart from the added cost, I don't see why Capt. Editor thinks the DVD is a reason not to get a PS2. I don't have a DVD player, if I got a PS2, I would. It wouldn't be a shoddy one either, sony have a good reputation for their DVD players.

However, when I saw the GameCube I had second thoughts about getting a PS2. Having the GB:Advance as a controller is a great idea (as I'm getting one in about a month), and the modem plus the broadband adapter means some t-a-s-t-y online play. The games aren't all geared towards the under 14's either. I had a look at the preview list at www.ign.com and with titles like Duke Nukem Forever, Resident Evil Zero, SSX Trickey and a first person Metroid Game, Nintendo have finally realised that adults play games too. Evolution looks amazing as well. Not much is known about it, but I downloaded an in-game movie of it, and it blew me away. The graphics looked like incredibly high quality FMV -- and it was in-game!

I've decided. I'm gonna get a GameCube. Sweet.

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As Necromicon mentioned PS2 includes a DVD player and a hight quality PlayStation. I too don't have a DVD and whant to get one so9 if I buy a PS2 I'll get every thing I want.
The PS2 costs about $499 so I'll be paying $250 for a DVD and $250 for an ars kicking PS.

Besides I'm a hater of Nintendo, I dont know why!

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I'm going to respond to a bunch of these posts here:

"As a long time Sega loyalist, I think I'd rather go for a PS2 to continue fighting against Nintendo's dominance of the market."

Dominance of the market? Playstation outsold N64 by something like 8 to 1? Now Sony and Microsoft are both selling their consoles AT A LOSS, meaning they lose money on each console, just to gain as much market share as possible.

"I heard that the Gamecube is going to initially be coming out with only 7 games and these games are probably going to be geared towards Nintendo's 13-year-old audience. The Xbox is coming out 3 days after the gcube and will probably be much cooler; however, you would then be supporting the omnipresent MS empire. "

I don't know where you heard this but it is not true. The last time I checked there were 15 or 18 CONFIRMED LAUNCH TITLES for GameCube, and I don't think any of them were Pokemon. I can tell you from experience, 23-year-olds LOVE Mario. Fun is fun.

"Nintendo really needs more games like "Conker's Bad fur day""

Conker's Bad Fur Day was one of the most disappointing titles in the history of game consoles, sales-wise. They actually LOST money on it, which is amazingly hard to do for a company with the reputation of Rare (the company that made it). In other words, Nintendo won't be hiring you as a market strategist any time soon...

"Rogue Squadron 2, Metroid Prime, Perfect Dark Zero, SSB Melee, Wave Race: Blue Storm, ect ect ect."

All great examples of awesome games that you can't play on any other platform. Nintendo consistently comes up with the overall most fun library of games. That's why they're my favorite game company. Their dedication to quality over quantity and hype, and to what a game console should really be (not a DVD player or PC) is what sets them apart in the industry.

Nintendo is the Apple of the game console world. Actually, they're better than Apple. Sony is the Microsoft of this arena. Microsoft... I'm not sure what they are yet.



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Capt. Editor
Well said Amory.

About the whole DVD-Game system stuff: I want to be able to play my games while my sister watches that movie I hate on DVD. My parent's/sister would boot me off my system so that they could watch they're movies. Get the point?


Another thing that most people love about Nintendo is that they keep the classics. Does anyone still play Meroin on their old NES console? I do. Then Super Metroid came out for the Super NES. Though there was no Metroid game for N64, they put the characters from Metroid into other games(Super Smash Bro's). Now, I hear about the release of Meroid for CameCube. I'm really excited. I don't know if Metroid is made by Nintendo, and I don't think it is, but look at Mario. Mario has been around for a long time, and they're still developing games about the old plumber!!


OK, I need to stop typinng now because I'm really tired. It's 12:21 AM, so if I'm not typing straight, just live with it.

-Kevin

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And I believe the power pc in the cube is from IBM not Motorola.

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Originally posted by the Necromicon:
Hrm..I have been thinking about which console I'm gonna get for a long time. I was tempted by the PS2 with it's backwards compatibility (meaning a wealth of good games already) as well as amazing titles such as Midnight Club Racer, Tekken Tag, Warriors of Might and Magic, Quake 3, Unreal Tournament etc etc. It also has internet support, you just have to by a seperate digital modem for it (like you had to for the Dreamcast). Plus, it's got a DVD player. Frankly, apart from the added cost, I don't see why Capt. Editor thinks the DVD is a reason not to get a PS2. I don't have a DVD player, if I got a PS2, I would. It wouldn't be a shoddy one either, sony have a good reputation for their DVD players.

However, when I saw the GameCube I had second thoughts about getting a PS2. Having the GB:Advance as a controller is a great idea (as I'm getting one in about a month), and the modem plus the broadband adapter means some t-a-s-t-y online play. The games aren't all geared towards the under 14's either. I had a look at the preview list at www.ign.com  and with titles like Duke Nukem Forever, Resident Evil Zero, SSX Trickey and a first person Metroid Game, Nintendo have finally realised that adults play games too. Evolution looks amazing as well. Not much is known about it, but I downloaded an in-game movie of it, and it blew me away. The graphics looked like incredibly high quality FMV -- and it was in-game!

I've decided. I'm gonna get a GameCube. Sweet.



Well said. My thoughs are about equal yours. My frien is trying to get me to buy a PS2 but I refuse. Nintendo doesn't have complete dominance anymore. They have dominance of the handheld world but not over the consules anymore. BTW, I thought that the PS2 had iNet play too. What's up with this new news that I am hearing?

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From my perspective the Game Cube owns, but the PS2 has a LOT of selection going for it. PS2 owners can still play games from the old Playstation, which is great. What I hate about all the new game systems coming out every few years is that the upgrade in hardware usually forces you to abandon your old favorites. To me, having the latest technology means nothing if you can't enjoy the titles available to you. That's a reason I think its generally a bad idea to get new systems when they first come out; the price tag is high and the slectivity is low. Anyway.....to Nintendo's credit they'll be bringing back a few Super Nintendo games to the Game Boy Advance, as well as some other golden oldies such as Super Mario 3. But there's still the console upgrade issue. Not so with the PS2. They're even going to upgrade the older Final Fantasy games, such as FFVII, for it so it has that PS2 look. They'll also be updating other classics, such as the superb Chrono Trigger (formally for the SNES). There's also the Mega Man X series, if you're into that kind of thing.

All that said, the Game Cube will no doubt get some superb titles of its own. Mario and Zelda come to mind, as well as Metroid's first debut on a truly powerful game system (the last one was for the SNES, which was ages ago). To boot the upcoming Final Fantasy XI will be multi-platform; hopefully this is a sign that Sony's consoles will no longer have a monolopy on that series.

In the end, both systems have very good points to them. Today I would probably go with a Game Cube, as I have always been a Nintendo fan and the newest Final Fantasy title(s) will be available for it. The PS2, however, has that huge selection that makes it very hard to resist. Quite frankly I hope both prosper, as they are both superb. I also hope with all my might that they both beat the living daylights out of Microsoft's crappy X-Box. Mark my words, it'll fare no better than the Dreamcast did.

UEC

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