For those of you who don't know, it will be released in the US on Nov. 5.
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For those of you who think Nintendo has only kiddie games, it doesn't. How you got that idea, I have no clue.
Also, you may think Nintendo sucks, but I could say the same about any other game systems. You want to point out all of Nintendoes problems? Go ahead, I'll point out all of your favorite game systems problems.
What's my point? Why does everyone pick on Nintendo? It's got more than just kiddie games, and the Game Cube will have faster, smoother, and higher quality graphics than PS2. I don't want to hear any more people complaining about how nintendo has only kiddie games and how PS2 is far better in grphics, games, and speed.
The PS2 and Game Cube will be probably be equivelent to eachother, but I know that The Game Cube will have faster, smoother, and higher quality graphics.(prob only because it's coming out after the PS2, a tad bit more advanced)
The Game Cube will cost apoximately $200, severely undercutting the PS2's price. :evil grin:
OK, now I'm just rambling...I'd better go to bed...
-Kevin
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The GameCube looks great. Finally Nintendo is abandoning the cartridge format. However, I'm not purchasing it. 
The PS2 has a DVD player. What a deal!
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I redefined the science of radio astronomy, making nobel prize winners
question their notions of reality. Oh, but I disgress...You play Sorry,
I play Chess. King's pawn to B3, checkmate, go get some percosets."
The reason the PS2 is $300 and not $200 is that is has a DVD player. Secondly, Nintendo does make kiddie games, name one game made by nintendo (not a third party devoloper) that has a mature rating. The fact is Nintendo has a reputation of makeing games marketed towards kids. Don't get me wrong, I like Zelda as much as the next guy(or gal) but it doesn't have the depth of a Final Fantasy or Metal gear Solid. The main thing Nintendo games are missing are an in depth plot/storyline, violence, and "mature" language; things that are either too complicated or inappropriate for the -10 crowd. the PS2 and Gamecube are comparable but the real difference is software.
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I agree that Nintendo itself generally tends to attribute its software towards younger audiences. While that's not necessarily a bad thing, they take it too far. The most recent Gamecube movie of Zelda makes it look almost cartoonish, in direct contrast to the sleek, beautiful animation from Ocarina of Time. I strongly hope that this won't be a trend in future releases; if they next 2 or 3 Zelda games are like that an important part of Nintendo's base is going to get alienated. Further evidence of Nintendo's kiddie trend can be found with the sneak peaks of "Luigi's Mansion," as well as the horrible "Paper Mario" for the N64. The Pokemon factor need not be mentioned.
However, despite all this there is a lot to look forward to as far as the GameCube is concerned. Some of Nintendo's games look pretty decent, such as Super Smash Bros. Meelee. If its anything like the original, it'll be tons of fun (especially if we actually get to play with Sonic). Also, one has to look at the overall picture when considering the Gamecube, and to do that you have to compare the software available for the Gamecube to what will be available on the PS2. When doing this, you really can't discount the factor of 3rd party developers.
First off, there is the Sega factor....or more precisely, the Sonic the Hedgehog factor. That's a definite plus for Nintendo. We also have the adaption of Phantasy Star Online to look forward to.
Secondly, there are a number of fine games that will be available for the GameCube that weren't available before. I hear that Final Fantasy X will be released for the GameCube as well, thus finally breaking the exclusive grip the PS/PS2 has had on the series for years. To me, the major advantage Sony's consoles have had over Nintendo was the FF series along with other Squaresoft titles. Hopefully this trend will continue; I think we can hold out a lot of hope that FF XI and XII at least will be available for the GameCube as well.
Other 3rd party games to come out for the GameCube also seem promising, such as Tekken & Soul Calibur 2. I hold out a lot of hope that the GameCube will have a very diverse selection of software, one that will rival Sony's. If that's the case, the GameCube has the potential to beat out the PS2.
BTW, for tons of info on the GameCube & some of its upcoming titles, click on the link below:
http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/0,108...6019667,00.html
UEC
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However, despite all this there is a lot to look forward to as far as the GameCube is concerned. Some of Nintendo's games look pretty decent, such as Super Smash Bros. Meelee. If its anything like the original, it'll be tons of fun (especially if we actually get to play with Sonic). Also, one has to look at the overall picture when considering the Gamecube, and to do that you have to compare the software available for the Gamecube to what will be available on the PS2. When doing this, you really can't discount the factor of 3rd party developers.
First off, there is the Sega factor....or more precisely, the Sonic the Hedgehog factor. That's a definite plus for Nintendo. We also have the adaption of Phantasy Star Online to look forward to.
Secondly, there are a number of fine games that will be available for the GameCube that weren't available before. I hear that Final Fantasy X will be released for the GameCube as well, thus finally breaking the exclusive grip the PS/PS2 has had on the series for years. To me, the major advantage Sony's consoles have had over Nintendo was the FF series along with other Squaresoft titles. Hopefully this trend will continue; I think we can hold out a lot of hope that FF XI and XII at least will be available for the GameCube as well.
Other 3rd party games to come out for the GameCube also seem promising, such as Tekken & Soul Calibur 2. I hold out a lot of hope that the GameCube will have a very diverse selection of software, one that will rival Sony's. If that's the case, the GameCube has the potential to beat out the PS2.
BTW, for tons of info on the GameCube & some of its upcoming titles, click on the link below:
http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/0,108...6019667,00.html
UEC
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[quote]Originally posted by DualBlade:
The GameCube looks great. Finally Nintendo is abandoning the cartridge format. However, I'm not purchasing it.
-Kevin
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The GameCube looks great. Finally Nintendo is abandoning the cartridge format. However, I'm not purchasing it.
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Originally posted by UE Crusader:
I agree that Nintendo itself generally tends to attribute its software towards younger audiences. While that's not necessarily a bad thing, they take it too far. The most recent Gamecube movie of Zelda makes it look almost cartoonish, in direct contrast to the sleek, beautiful animation from Ocarina of Time. I strongly hope that this won't be a trend in future releases; if they next 2 or 3 Zelda games are like that an important part of Nintendo's base is going to get alienated. Further evidence of Nintendo's kiddie trend can be found with the sneak peaks of "Luigi's Mansion," as well as the horrible "Paper Mario" for the N64.
I agree that Nintendo itself generally tends to attribute its software towards younger audiences. While that's not necessarily a bad thing, they take it too far. The most recent Gamecube movie of Zelda makes it look almost cartoonish, in direct contrast to the sleek, beautiful animation from Ocarina of Time. I strongly hope that this won't be a trend in future releases; if they next 2 or 3 Zelda games are like that an important part of Nintendo's base is going to get alienated. Further evidence of Nintendo's kiddie trend can be found with the sneak peaks of "Luigi's Mansion," as well as the horrible "Paper Mario" for the N64.
I do agree that Nintendo itself makes more games for younger audiences. This doesn't mean they're not for older people too! The new Zelda screenshots do look bad, and I hope that they change them. I am actually looking forward to Luigi's Mantion, and will buy it as soon as posible. Paper Mario...bleh!
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The Pokemon factor need not be mentioned.
Gah! You mentioned it!! The whole Pokemon idea sucked.
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However, despite all this there is a lot to look forward to as far as the GameCube is concerned. Some of Nintendo's games look pretty decent, such as Super Smash Bros. Meelee. If its anything like the original, it'll be tons of fun (especially if we actually get to play with Sonic). Also, one has to look at the overall picture when considering the Gamecube, and to do that you have to compare the software available for the Gamecube to what will be available on the PS2. When doing this, you really can't discount the factor of 3rd party developers.
3rd party devlopers create more games than Nintendo does. Almost all of my N64 games are from 3rd party developers. You can't judge a system by the sofware he system developers make, the 3rd party developers make the difference. Where would Apple be if they were the only company to make software for they're computers?
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First off, there is the Sega factor....or more precisely, the Sonic the Hedgehog factor. That's a definite plus for Nintendo. We also have the adaption of Phantasy Star Online to look forward to.
I was very happy to hear the news from Sega.
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Secondly, there are a number of fine games that will be available for the GameCube that weren't available before. I hear that Final Fantasy X will be released for the GameCube as well, thus finally breaking the exclusive grip the PS/PS2 has had on the series for years. To me, the major advantage Sony's consoles have had over Nintendo was the FF series along with other Squaresoft titles. Hopefully this trend will continue; I think we can hold out a lot of hope that FF XI and XII at least will be available for the GameCube as well.
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Other 3rd party games to come out for the GameCube also seem promising, such as Tekken & Soul Calibur 2. I hold out a lot of hope that the GameCube will have a very diverse selection of software, one that will rival Sony's. If that's the case, the GameCube has the potential to beat out the PS2.
The Game Cube has definate potential to beat the PS2...by far.
-Kevin
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I hear that Final Fantasy X will be released for the GameCube as well, thus finally breaking the exclusive grip the PS/PS2 has had on the series for years.
Not FFX, there have been rumors that square will bring FFXI to the gamecube and the Xbox to get a larger online market for the game.QUOTE
First off, there is the Sega factor....or more precisely, the Sonic the Hedgehog factor. That's a definite plus for Nintendo. We also have the adaption of Phantasy Star Online to look forward to.
Its also been rumored/confirmed that sega is developing sonic, 2K, and Phantasy star games for the PS2. And I'm not sure that the game cube has a very good chance of beating out the PS2. The PS2 has already sold almost 16 million units, it has a large library of games (PSone games included), and the gamecube has to compete with the Xbox as well.------------------
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Not FFX, there have been rumors that square will bring FFXI to the gamecube and the Xbox to get a larger online market for the game.
Ah well. I guess its still something to look forward to, though.....
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Its also been rumored/confirmed that sega is developing sonic, 2K, and Phantasy star games for the PS2.
Hrm, I'm not so sure that's true; I thought Sega & Nintendo reached some agreement that Sega would produce titles for just Nintendo. I could be wrong, though. In any case, its still a plus for the GameCube that such titles will be available.
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And I'm not sure that the game cube has a very good chance of beating out the PS2. The PS2 has already sold almost 16 million units, it has a large library of games (PSone games included), and the gamecube has to compete with the Xbox as well.
I agree, the PS2 is super-tough competition (the fact that old PSX games can be used on is a definite plus, I agree), and it'll be tough for Nintendo to beat out the PS2 in terms of the numer of consoles sold. I do think it can compete with it well, though. As for the Xbox, its doomed from the start. There isn't anything it has that the other two major consoles don't as far as titles are concerned, at least ones that are worth noting. I don't care what kind of technology it has; the software is what matters. The PS2/GameCube will walk all over it, and I predict that it will meet a fate similar to that of the Dreamcast's.
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And I'm not sure that the game cube has a very good chance of beating out the PS2. The PS2 has already sold almost 16 million units, it has a large library of games (PSone games included), and the gamecube has to compete with the Xbox as well.
And I'm not sure that the game cube has a very good chance of beating out the PS2. The PS2 has already sold almost 16 million units, it has a large library of games (PSone games included), and the gamecube has to compete with the Xbox as well.
Personally, I don't think the Xbox has a chance.
PS2 has already sold a lot of units, but it came out before the Game Cube. The Game Cube will have several games released on the day the unit is released, and most developers are working on Game Cube games full time. Only one game title has been released on N64 for quite a while...
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Its also been rumored/confirmed that sega is developing sonic, 2K, and Phantasy star games for the PS2.
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Hrm, I'm not so sure that's true; I thought Sega & Nintendo reached some agreement that Sega would produce titles for just Nintendo. I could be wrong, though. In any case, its still a plus for the GameCube that such titles will be available.
Those agreements aren't really true, they're usually just for one title. For example Microsoft might advertise DOA3 as a Xbox exclusive but actually its only exclusive for about 3 months.------------------------------------------------------------------------
Its also been rumored/confirmed that sega is developing sonic, 2K, and Phantasy star games for the PS2.
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Hrm, I'm not so sure that's true; I thought Sega & Nintendo reached some agreement that Sega would produce titles for just Nintendo. I could be wrong, though. In any case, its still a plus for the GameCube that such titles will be available.
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Originally posted by UE Crusader:
Hrm, I'm not so sure that's true; I thought Sega & Nintendo reached some agreement that Sega would produce titles for just Nintendo. I could be wrong, though. In any case, its still a plus for the GameCube that such titles will be available.
Hrm, I'm not so sure that's true; I thought Sega & Nintendo reached some agreement that Sega would produce titles for just Nintendo. I could be wrong, though. In any case, its still a plus for the GameCube that such titles will be available.
I believe Sega said it will be bringing games to the PS2 as well, starting with Space Channel 5.
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the fact that old PSX games can be used on is a definite plus
It is in fact one of the main reasons I would prefer a PS2.
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Sony: PSX, PS2
Sega: Dreamcast
Nintendo: N64, Gamecube
Microsoft: Xbox
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Let me see if I got this right:
Sony: PSX, PS2
Sega: Dreamcast
Nintendo: N64, Gamecube
Microsoft: Xbox
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Gamecube will be released in an hybrid to it will have dvd-player and it will cost just as much as an PS2
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So let me get this straight. One of your main criteria for games is "mature" language? Are you saying that makes a game better? Sadly, you are yet another victim of commercialized America. Ohh, when will people learn for themselves! Really, I don't see that as being a plus in a game. It detracts from the storyline. Violence can add to a game's realism, but there is such a thing as excessive violence. One would wonder why so many of today's youth go bad...
While Nintendo does tend to orient itself toward a younger audience, that doesn't mean they won't develop more mature games as well. And no one has considered Sonic...isn't he just as "cartoony" as Mario?
GameSpot??? Have you ever heard of Cube IGN? GameSpot's got nothin' on them. Seriously...
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Originally posted by Ironhorse:
The main thing Nintendo games are missing are an in depth plot/storyline, violence, and "mature" language; things that are either too complicated or inappropriate for the -10 crowd. the PS2 and Gamecube are comparable but the real difference is software.
The main thing Nintendo games are missing are an in depth plot/storyline, violence, and "mature" language; things that are either too complicated or inappropriate for the -10 crowd. the PS2 and Gamecube are comparable but the real difference is software.
So let me get this straight. One of your main criteria for games is "mature" language? Are you saying that makes a game better? Sadly, you are yet another victim of commercialized America. Ohh, when will people learn for themselves! Really, I don't see that as being a plus in a game. It detracts from the storyline. Violence can add to a game's realism, but there is such a thing as excessive violence. One would wonder why so many of today's youth go bad...
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Originally posted by UE Crusader:
I agree that Nintendo itself generally tends to attribute its software towards younger audiences. While that's not necessarily a bad thing, they take it too far. The most recent Gamecube movie of Zelda makes it look almost cartoonish, in direct contrast to the sleek, beautiful animation from Ocarina of Time. I strongly hope that this won't be a trend in future releases; if they next 2 or 3 Zelda games are like that an important part of Nintendo's base is going to get alienated. Further evidence of Nintendo's kiddie trend can be found with the sneak peaks of "Luigi's Mansion," as well as the horrible "Paper Mario" for the N64. The Pokemon factor need not be mentioned.
However, despite all this there is a lot to look forward to as far as the GameCube is concerned. Some of Nintendo's games look pretty decent, such as Super Smash Bros. Meelee. If its anything like the original, it'll be tons of fun (especially if we actually get to play with Sonic). Also, one has to look at the overall picture when considering the Gamecube, and to do that you have to compare the software available for the Gamecube to what will be available on the PS2. When doing this, you really can't discount the factor of 3rd party developers.
First off, there is the Sega factor....or more precisely, the Sonic the Hedgehog factor. That's a definite plus for Nintendo. We also have the adaption of Phantasy Star Online to look forward to.
Secondly, there are a number of fine games that will be available for the GameCube that weren't available before. I hear that Final Fantasy X will be released for the GameCube as well, thus finally breaking the exclusive grip the PS/PS2 has had on the series for years. To me, the major advantage Sony's consoles have had over Nintendo was the FF series along with other Squaresoft titles. Hopefully this trend will continue; I think we can hold out a lot of hope that FF XI and XII at least will be available for the GameCube as well.
Other 3rd party games to come out for the GameCube also seem promising, such as Tekken & Soul Calibur 2. I hold out a lot of hope that the GameCube will have a very diverse selection of software, one that will rival Sony's. If that's the case, the GameCube has the potential to beat out the PS2.
BTW, for tons of info on the GameCube & some of its upcoming titles, click on the link below:
http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/0,108...6019667,00.html
UEC
I agree that Nintendo itself generally tends to attribute its software towards younger audiences. While that's not necessarily a bad thing, they take it too far. The most recent Gamecube movie of Zelda makes it look almost cartoonish, in direct contrast to the sleek, beautiful animation from Ocarina of Time. I strongly hope that this won't be a trend in future releases; if they next 2 or 3 Zelda games are like that an important part of Nintendo's base is going to get alienated. Further evidence of Nintendo's kiddie trend can be found with the sneak peaks of "Luigi's Mansion," as well as the horrible "Paper Mario" for the N64. The Pokemon factor need not be mentioned.
However, despite all this there is a lot to look forward to as far as the GameCube is concerned. Some of Nintendo's games look pretty decent, such as Super Smash Bros. Meelee. If its anything like the original, it'll be tons of fun (especially if we actually get to play with Sonic). Also, one has to look at the overall picture when considering the Gamecube, and to do that you have to compare the software available for the Gamecube to what will be available on the PS2. When doing this, you really can't discount the factor of 3rd party developers.
First off, there is the Sega factor....or more precisely, the Sonic the Hedgehog factor. That's a definite plus for Nintendo. We also have the adaption of Phantasy Star Online to look forward to.
Secondly, there are a number of fine games that will be available for the GameCube that weren't available before. I hear that Final Fantasy X will be released for the GameCube as well, thus finally breaking the exclusive grip the PS/PS2 has had on the series for years. To me, the major advantage Sony's consoles have had over Nintendo was the FF series along with other Squaresoft titles. Hopefully this trend will continue; I think we can hold out a lot of hope that FF XI and XII at least will be available for the GameCube as well.
Other 3rd party games to come out for the GameCube also seem promising, such as Tekken & Soul Calibur 2. I hold out a lot of hope that the GameCube will have a very diverse selection of software, one that will rival Sony's. If that's the case, the GameCube has the potential to beat out the PS2.
BTW, for tons of info on the GameCube & some of its upcoming titles, click on the link below:
http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/0,108...6019667,00.html
UEC
While Nintendo does tend to orient itself toward a younger audience, that doesn't mean they won't develop more mature games as well. And no one has considered Sonic...isn't he just as "cartoony" as Mario?
GameSpot??? Have you ever heard of Cube IGN? GameSpot's got nothin' on them. Seriously...
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name one game made by nintendo (not a third party devoloper) that has a mature rating
name one game made by nintendo (not a third party devoloper) that has a mature rating
Perfect Dark.
Well, technically, Rare did that, but when you consider that Nintendo has a large ownership in Rare...
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Originally posted by Starkiller:
Perfect Dark.
Well, technically, Rare did that, but when you consider that Nintendo has a large ownership in Rare...
Perfect Dark.
Well, technically, Rare did that, but when you consider that Nintendo has a large ownership in Rare...
Yeah, I think Rare's being enslaved by Nintendo.
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So let me get this straight. One of your main criteria for games is "mature" language? Are you saying that makes a game better? Sadly, you are yet another victim of commercialized America. Ohh, when will people learn for themselves! Really, I don't see that as being a plus in a game. It detracts from the storyline. Violence can add to a game's realism, but there is such a thing as excessive violence. One would wonder why so many of today's youth go bad...
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So let me get this straight. One of your main criteria for games is "mature" language? Are you saying that makes a game better? Sadly, you are yet another victim of commercialized America. Ohh, when will people learn for themselves! Really, I don't see that as being a plus in a game. It detracts from the storyline. Violence can add to a game's realism, but there is such a thing as excessive violence. One would wonder why so many of today's youth go bad...
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NO!!! your last point is off by about 180°.
Todays youth go bad not because of video game violence, it is the opposite. Being one who almost went bad, I should know. When I snapped, the only way i kept from burning my school down was putting on some pantera and blowing people up in UT. It is actually very stress relieving. The interaction of games is what calms people, unlike tv, which is only one way. It is not even that which harms kids. Tv after all, induces a coma-like state of being. The only thing that causes stress enough to make one want to burn down a school or shoot random people is the teasing via others, and various inflammatory remarks by people. Not to mention over-stressed minds and extreme lows(after gettin real high).
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Originally posted by Capt. Editor:
For those of you who don't know, it will be released in the US on Nov. 5.
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For those of you who think Nintendo has only kiddie games, it doesn't. How you got that idea, I have no clue.
Also, you may think Nintendo sucks, but I could say the same about any other game systems. You want to point out all of Nintendoes problems? Go ahead, I'll point out all of your favorite game systems problems.
[b]What's my point? Why does everyone pick on Nintendo? It's got more than just kiddie games, and the Game Cube will have faster, smoother, and higher quality graphics than PS2. I don't want to hear any more people complaining about how nintendo has only kiddie games and how PS2 is far better in grphics, games, and speed.
The PS2 and Game Cube will be probably be equivelent to eachother, but I know that The Game Cube will have faster, smoother, and higher quality graphics.(prob only because it's coming out after the PS2, a tad bit more advanced)
The Game Cube will cost apoximately $200, severely undercutting the PS2's price. :evil grin:
OK, now I'm just rambling...I'd better go to bed...
-Kevin
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For those of you who don't know, it will be released in the US on Nov. 5.
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For those of you who think Nintendo has only kiddie games, it doesn't. How you got that idea, I have no clue.
Also, you may think Nintendo sucks, but I could say the same about any other game systems. You want to point out all of Nintendoes problems? Go ahead, I'll point out all of your favorite game systems problems.
[b]What's my point? Why does everyone pick on Nintendo? It's got more than just kiddie games, and the Game Cube will have faster, smoother, and higher quality graphics than PS2. I don't want to hear any more people complaining about how nintendo has only kiddie games and how PS2 is far better in grphics, games, and speed.
The PS2 and Game Cube will be probably be equivelent to eachother, but I know that The Game Cube will have faster, smoother, and higher quality graphics.(prob only because it's coming out after the PS2, a tad bit more advanced)
The Game Cube will cost apoximately $200, severely undercutting the PS2's price. :evil grin:
OK, now I'm just rambling...I'd better go to bed...
-Kevin
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Originally posted by Oedipus:
NO!!! your last point is off by about 180°.
Todays youth go bad not because of video game violence, it is the opposite. Being one who almost went bad, I should know. When I snapped, the only way i kept from burning my school down was putting on some pantera and blowing people up in UT. It is actually very stress relieving. The interaction of games is what calms people, unlike tv, which is only one way. It is not even that which harms kids. Tv after all, induces a coma-like state of being. The only thing that causes stress enough to make one want to burn down a school or shoot random people is the teasing via others, and various inflammatory remarks by people. Not to mention over-stressed minds and extreme lows(after gettin real high).
NO!!! your last point is off by about 180°.
Todays youth go bad not because of video game violence, it is the opposite. Being one who almost went bad, I should know. When I snapped, the only way i kept from burning my school down was putting on some pantera and blowing people up in UT. It is actually very stress relieving. The interaction of games is what calms people, unlike tv, which is only one way. It is not even that which harms kids. Tv after all, induces a coma-like state of being. The only thing that causes stress enough to make one want to burn down a school or shoot random people is the teasing via others, and various inflammatory remarks by people. Not to mention over-stressed minds and extreme lows(after gettin real high).
I agree that playing video games is a great way to get rid of stress. However, playing violent games at an early age can desensitize the person to violence rapidly. In kids' minds, the barriers between fiction and reality break down. What should be classified as "dangerous" now goes under the "safe" category. I'm not saying that this happens to everyone, nor am I saying that everyone shouldn't play such games. It is always entirely up to the person to decide. For children, their decisions aren't as easy to make because their feelings on the matter aren't always clear. I should've been clearer; when I said youth, I was mostly referring to 14 and under, not above that.
Not that anyone ever takes my advice anyways
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Originally posted by watzerman:
Sony: PSX, PS2
Sega: Dreamcast
Nintendo: N64, Gamecube
Microsoft: Xbox
Allow me to correct that:Sony: PSX, PS2
Sega: Dreamcast
Nintendo: N64, Gamecube
Microsoft: Xbox
[FLAME]
Sony: Worthy Adversary
Sega: Dead hulk of an Adversary
Nintendo: Best console company ever(though i personally prefer computers...)
Microsoft: ****tiest of all companies of any kind, anywhere. Xbox will die, and hopefully(though i admit doubtfully) Microsoft along with it!
My lifelong goal is to buy 51% of Microsoft stock and order them to disband the company... and then assassinate Bill Gates.
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Just my opinion...
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Four words:
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Four words:
Conker's Bad Fur Day
haha, great game. Looks like nintendo might just have a big chance with the 'cube. Can't wait but of course, I have to. Its the downside of being a student.
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Finally, someone agrees with me. Have any of you even played conkers? The MP game war is such a blast especially when you have 2 people and 10 bots, it feels like an actuall war zone, too bad you can't have more bots when you have more than 4 peeps. I doubt I'll be able to get the gamecube when it come out, but I can always mooch of friends.
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screw that, go with perfect dark if you want gun-type combat. It was slightly fun because of the violence, crude jokes, and general attitude about the game but overall it wasn't the greatest game.
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Originally posted by Desert Fox:
screw that, go with perfect dark if you want gun-type combat. It was slightly fun because of the violence, crude jokes, and general attitude about the game but overall it wasn't the greatest game.
screw that, go with perfect dark if you want gun-type combat. It was slightly fun because of the violence, crude jokes, and general attitude about the game but overall it wasn't the greatest game.
EXACTLY!!!! The joanna and the other guy stuff was pretty funny. besides, it is cool putting it on slow-mo and running around against 8 bots, blasting the crap outta them.
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Yeah, Perfect Dark rules. I hope they make a sequel(or one like it, but better) to it for the Game Cube.
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Yeah, perfect dark is fun, but its not the same experience. I play it if I want a gunfight type of game, I play conkers for a more warlike game, with the two fotresses outfitted with snipers and their own gatling guns. You don't get that with Perfect Dark, because it is a different game with a differant focus.
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Darn, the release date has been delayed to November 18th.
-Kevin
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Originally posted by Capt. Editor:
Darn, the release date has been delayed to November 18th.
Darn, the release date has been delayed to November 18th.
Well nuts, guess we have to wait a whole 13 days more to get our hands on the eagerly awaited "Super Mario 128" and whatever Pokemon has in the works
I say PS2 all the way. It's easy for Nintendo to have superior technology when it releases its systems a year or more later than the competition. SNES came out two years after Genesis, Genesis won. N64 came out over a year after the original PlayStation, PSX won. Both Genesis and PlayStation were lower tech than their Nintendo counterparts, but better than anything else when they were released, allowing them to build a user base. The same thing is true of the original NES, which beat the technologically superior Master System released two years later.
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Originally posted by Planet_Buster:
Microsoft: ****tiest of all companies of any kind, anywhere. Xbox will die, and hopefully(though i admit doubtfully) Microsoft along with it!
My lifelong goal is to buy 51% of Microsoft stock and order them to disband the company... and then assassinate Bill Gates.
Microsoft: ****tiest of all companies of any kind, anywhere. Xbox will die, and hopefully(though i admit doubtfully) Microsoft along with it!
My lifelong goal is to buy 51% of Microsoft stock and order them to disband the company... and then assassinate Bill Gates.
Of course you realize that if Microsoft goes down, Apple will go with it.
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Originally posted by StarStrafer:
Of course you realize that if Microsoft goes down, Apple will go with it.
Of course you realize that if Microsoft goes down, Apple will go with it.
Finally someone mentions that...
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[quote]Originally posted by StarStrafer:
Well nuts, guess we have to wait a whole 13 days more to get our hands on the eagerly awaited "Super Mario 128" and whatever Pokemon has in the works
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Well nuts, guess we have to wait a whole 13 days more to get our hands on the eagerly awaited "Super Mario 128" and whatever Pokemon has in the works
-Kevin
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So, you like Nintendo just because its systems are more advanced than its competitors?
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Originally posted by coreycubed:
Yeah, I think Rare's being enslaved by Nintendo. Imagine a large, underground facility somewhere in England..."Get to work!!! I want to see every hair on Fox's tail shine by the time you're through!!!"
Yeah, I think Rare's being enslaved by Nintendo.
Imagine a large, underground facility somewhere in England..."Get to work!!! I want to see every hair on Fox's tail shine by the time you're through!!!"somewhat like bungie and microsoft's relationship...
but anyways, perfect dark was pretty cool (in my mind it beat out goldeneye by miles and miles)
this whole games getting released for xbox before computer is really starting to piss me off. Its obviously microsoft knows its losing so its reverting back to its sleezy marketing tactics to try and win back people. Why can't they learn to cancel projects anyways. Ive heard nothing good about xbox, at all...
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So why cant i do it?
Now, exactly, why will apple go down with microsoft?
I'm sure your reasoning makes sense I just didn't catch it.
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Originally posted by TheDarkDragon:
Now, exactly, why will apple go down with microsoft?
I'm sure your reasoning makes sense I just didn't catch it.
Now, exactly, why will apple go down with microsoft?
I'm sure your reasoning makes sense I just didn't catch it.
Because Microsoft owns a very sizable part of Apple, the purchase of which helped Apple avoid financial ruin in the mid-90's before the Jobs/iMac era. So if Microsoft dies, watch Apple's stock price drop like a stone.
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Because Microsoft owns a very sizable part of Apple, the purchase of which helped Apple avoid financial ruin in the mid-90's before the Jobs/iMac era. So if Microsoft dies, watch Apple's stock price drop like a stone.
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Posted by Ironhorse:
The main thing Nintendo games are missing .... violence, and "mature" language
The main thing Nintendo games are missing .... violence, and "mature" language
Have you ever played Perfect Dark or Conker's Bad Fur Day? You'll get enough "mature" language for yourself there
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Board Game, because you don't have anything better to do. Yes, you.
[quote]Originally posted by Pikeman:
On November 5th, I will own four Nintendo systems. Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, and Nintendo Gamecube. Go Rogue Squadron 2!
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On November 5th, I will own four Nintendo systems. Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, and Nintendo Gamecube. Go Rogue Squadron 2!
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Lucky $#@&%!!! I won't get the GameCube 'till Christmas probably...
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NO WAY! No gaming console! TVs suck! They are bad for your eyes (at least the 60Hz ones) and besides, I want more control! Call me a geek *looks to my own signature*, and you're right! I won't use a console! The only one I'd be close to using is the PS2 BECAUSE it has a DVD player.
Bad day. Ungh. Gotta go out see if there's any bus passing by soon. Gotta get home... Sleep!!!
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No *true* gamer can play without a console. They're designed for games, dummy!
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Originally posted by coreycubed:
No *true* gamer can play without a console. They're designed for games, dummy!
No *true* gamer can play without a console. They're designed for games, dummy!
heh. If a gaming console is a (in my eyes) relatively stupid box hooked up to a TV with flash EPROM chips to save games on... And if I have to use one of those to be a gamer, then I am no gamer...
Nah, gimme control or gimme death!
A computer can deliver better graphics, higher speeds, better interface, more games, much more control and better multiplayer capabilities. So, why go for a console? What is available on consoles is either;
* Better on a real computer
* Not existing on a computer (in which case you can emulate...)
* Not a game anyone else than a kid would wanna play anyway!
Or a combination of the above.
Besides; How are you supposed to make backups on a console? Or do anything else than play few player games on split screen??? UNGH!!!
I find gaming feel on consoles to be worse than computer games, why should I settle for a console then???
Gimme one good reason!
WW
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Originally posted by Ironhorse:
Nintendo didn't develop those games.
Nintendo didn't develop those games.
It doesn't matter who made the game, it's what game system it's for. I can go buy a Nintendo and buy a bunch of Nintendo games with it, or I can buy a Nintendo and buy a bunch of games made by other developers. If there weren't any third party developers, most companies would be out of businesses.
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[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
heh. If a gaming console is a (in my eyes) relatively stupid box hooked up to a TV with flash EPROM chips to save games on... And if I have to use one of those to be a gamer, then I am no gamer...[/quote]
OK, let's take 'em by the numbers...
First, the "relatively stupid box" bit. You could be referring to the GameCube, which fits that description. OK, so? It's rather sleek, actually. And it doesn't only come in purple. Get Jet Black and it's slicker than a bucket of oil.
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
Nah, gimme control or gimme death!
A computer can deliver better graphics,[/quote]
Ahem... I think not, have you seen what's coming out lately? The only thing that can compare is a Pentium IV or a G4 straight off the market.
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
higher speeds,[/quote]
Again, that's only if you are playing without a CD (which very few games allow that luxury). The very small loading time in the GameCube's case is hardly noticeable.
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
better interface,[/quote]
So what if you're running your program, and right smack in the middle an alert pops up on the screen? Not going to be too happy about that, I can tell you. Not that it happens often if you are solely focused on games, but say you have several applications running at once (out of necessity). It'll happen more often, I can tell you that.
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
more games,[/quote]
??? So there may be thousands of people writing games every day on the computer. I would hardly buy 1/4 of them anyways. And I doubt you have many of the games that are available, excepting the most popular...
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
much more control [/quote]
Not sure what you mean by that. If by control of the game's character, pah. Unless you buy specific game pads or joysticks (which is almost the same as buying a game controller), yuo are going to have one heck of a time trying to play on a keyboard. A console's controller (or at least, the GameCube's) is far superior.
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
and better multiplayer capabilities.[/quote]
Granted, I'll give you that. But try to cram four people in front of a computer and let them play, and see how it works. Badly. Consoles are better for local multiplayer gaming, and PCs are better for long-range multiplayer gaming.
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
So, why go for a console? What is available on consoles is either;
* Better on a real computer[/quote]
Unlikely...
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
* Not existing on a computer (in which case you can emulate...)[/quote]
Which, I might add, is illegal...
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
* Not a game anyone else than a kid would wanna play anyway![/quote]
Err...no...
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
Or a combination of the above.
Besides; How are you supposed to make backups on a console? Or do anything else than play few player games on split screen??? UNGH!!![/quote]
Two words: memory cards. They are becoming more affordable and more reliable. As for multiplayer games, see above.
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
I find gaming feel on consoles to be worse than computer games, why should I settle for a console then???
Gimme one good reason!
WW
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heh. If a gaming console is a (in my eyes) relatively stupid box hooked up to a TV with flash EPROM chips to save games on... And if I have to use one of those to be a gamer, then I am no gamer...[/quote]
OK, let's take 'em by the numbers...
First, the "relatively stupid box" bit. You could be referring to the GameCube, which fits that description. OK, so? It's rather sleek, actually. And it doesn't only come in purple. Get Jet Black and it's slicker than a bucket of oil.
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
Nah, gimme control or gimme death!
A computer can deliver better graphics,[/quote]
Ahem... I think not, have you seen what's coming out lately? The only thing that can compare is a Pentium IV or a G4 straight off the market.
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
higher speeds,[/quote]
Again, that's only if you are playing without a CD (which very few games allow that luxury). The very small loading time in the GameCube's case is hardly noticeable.
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
better interface,[/quote]
So what if you're running your program, and right smack in the middle an alert pops up on the screen? Not going to be too happy about that, I can tell you. Not that it happens often if you are solely focused on games, but say you have several applications running at once (out of necessity). It'll happen more often, I can tell you that.
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
more games,[/quote]
??? So there may be thousands of people writing games every day on the computer. I would hardly buy 1/4 of them anyways. And I doubt you have many of the games that are available, excepting the most popular...
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
much more control [/quote]
Not sure what you mean by that. If by control of the game's character, pah. Unless you buy specific game pads or joysticks (which is almost the same as buying a game controller), yuo are going to have one heck of a time trying to play on a keyboard. A console's controller (or at least, the GameCube's) is far superior.
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
and better multiplayer capabilities.[/quote]
Granted, I'll give you that. But try to cram four people in front of a computer and let them play, and see how it works. Badly. Consoles are better for local multiplayer gaming, and PCs are better for long-range multiplayer gaming.
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
So, why go for a console? What is available on consoles is either;
* Better on a real computer[/quote]
Unlikely...
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
* Not existing on a computer (in which case you can emulate...)[/quote]
Which, I might add, is illegal...
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
* Not a game anyone else than a kid would wanna play anyway![/quote]
Err...no...
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
Or a combination of the above.
Besides; How are you supposed to make backups on a console? Or do anything else than play few player games on split screen??? UNGH!!![/quote]
Two words: memory cards. They are becoming more affordable and more reliable. As for multiplayer games, see above.
[quote]Originally posted by WebWarrior:
I find gaming feel on consoles to be worse than computer games, why should I settle for a console then???
Gimme one good reason!
WW
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