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Ironhorse
Check out this article. I'm nt sure why micro$oft thought they could make money in Japan. If stuff like this keeps up there won't be an Xbox 2.

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Pyro
gah! why does this article just not get why xboxs arent selling. Sheesh, heres a clue, maybe because japanese gamers DONT LIKE microsoft and american consoles. There doesnt have to be a physical reason a product does sell, maybe people just dont like american consoles.

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Celchu
I wouldn't discount the X-Box just yet.

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SuperNova
I can't wait untill someone re-words the repairs of the defective systems into a less popular word that means the same thing and sounds exactly like recall .

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Ironhorse
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Originally posted by Celchu
I wouldn't discount the X-Box just yet.
Give me some evidence that it will last.

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Desert-Rat
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Give me some evidence that it will last.


Stupid americans

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Ironhorse
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Stupid americans
What's that supposed to mean?

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Desert-Rat
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Originally posted by Ironhorse:
What's that supposed to mean?



Well since it has been selling best in the US, and I think it's the same people that get PC instead of MAC

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TheDarkDragon
I rather enjoyed them comparing the XBOX to Jaguar at the end, because, as I recall, Jaguar caused the downfall of Atari's hardware production. Hopefully the same will happen to Microsoft.

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[quote]Originally posted by Desert-Rat:
... and I think it's the same people that get PC instead of MAC    

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the Necromicon
Meh, I like the Xbox, Halo is wicked and DoA3 is daamn good. Sure PS2's are good, but they're nothing special.

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PyroQuake
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Originally posted by the Necromicon:
Meh, I like the Xbox, Halo is wicked and DoA3 is daamn good. Sure PS2's are good, but they're nothing special.



GameCube > *

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Originally posted by Ironhorse:
Give me some evidence that it will last.



It will come. Just wait for some more time. Then we can make a decision. Maybe in a week or two.

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The Catacomb
Hehe, gamecube has already outsold Xbox in Europe in pre-orders.

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Timinator
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Originally posted by PyroQuake:
GameCube > *



It would be if Nintendo hadn't screwed up the release. They gave us sorry, short games (except for SSBM——that's nearly the best game ever), and then left a huge void of few releases. It should heat up when the next Mario, Link, and Mario Kart comes out. Until then, XBox *shudder* actually has better games.

I still like the GameCube best, though.

—Tim

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Gaviiiiin
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Originally posted by the Necromicon:
Meh, I like the Xbox, Halo is wicked and DoA3 is daamn good. Sure PS2's are good, but they're nothing special.



Piss off, ya big norhtern pansie.

PS2 is the best and there's no denying it, I don't care what anyone says.

CameGube looks very impressive, but the games seem too childish for me (at the moment at least). I'm more into MGS2, SSX (tricky), GTAIII (of course) and Max Payne was okay too. PS2 is just the console built for moi.

--Gav

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Desert-Rat
Gamecube has already got more preorders than XBOX has sold right now. But I ph33r that this will change I saw that MS had annouced a 40% reducment[sp?] of the price.


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xmatt
The PS2 has more than twice the userbase of the Xbox and Gamecube combined. That's a pretty steep hill both of those consoles are going to have to climb, especially given that the PS2 has had almost all the major blockbluster hits so far (FFX, GTA3, Silent Hill 2, etc.)...

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J.Ace21
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Originally posted by xmatt:
The PS2 has more than twice the userbase of the Xbox and Gamecube combined.


True, but of course the PS2 has been out alot longer than the other consoles. I like the GC the best, but I still doubt it'll be able to surpass the PS2.

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the Necromicon
[quote]Originally posted by Gaviiiiin:
Piss off, ya big norhtern pansie.

PS2 is the best and there's no denying it, I don't care what anyone says.  

Xbox has a better specification, four player action as standard (no multitap needed) and some kick ass games. Yeah, MGS and GTA 3 are wicked games, but Amped is sooo mujch better than Tricky.



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Gaviiiiin
[quote]Originally posted by the Necromicon:
A be quiet you cockney eejot.  

For a start, multitap is quite cheap, and 4 player is pretty rare most of the time. I mean, 4 controller ports is nice but it's no reason to change your mind over a console. And yes, GTAIII and MGS2 are wicked games, and most of the XBox games I've seem so far are just mimicks or copies of other console games.

One thing that annoys me about PS2 tho, is that almost all of the top selling games are sequels, which is nice but a bit more originality would be better.

GameCube is good, but it looks too ****ing stupid for me to have. If anyone found out about a GC in my living room I would be the laughing stock of the estate. I have a reputation to defend, matey.

--Gav



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J.Ace21
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Originally posted by Gaviiiiin:
GameCube is good, but it looks too ****ing stupid for me to have. If anyone found out about a GC in my living room I would be the laughing stock of the estate. I have a reputation to defend, matey.    

--Gav



Well, if that's your problem you could always get the Panasonic GameCube from Japan.




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theGlueBubble
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Originally posted by the Necromicon:
A be quiet you cockney eejot.  

Xbox has a better specification, four player action as standard (no multitap needed) and some kick ass games. Yeah, MGS and GTA 3 are wicked games, but Amped is sooo mujch better than Tricky.



Heh, I was up until 6 in the morning playing Amped yesterday. I think we had 7 hours logged on just that game. Those bloody sponsors can be hard.

And yes, Halo f'ing rocks, especially when you get four players going.

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Bobster
Dude I had a Jaguar and I thought it was good basically like the NeoGeo. I sold it to my uncle cause I needed the money for my N64.

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Mazca
Metal Gear Solid 2 is reason enough on it's own to buy a PS2. It is the best console game I have ever played. By far.

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xmatt
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Originally posted by J.Ace21:
True, but of course the PS2 has been out alot longer than the other consoles. I like the GC the best, but I still doubt it'll be able to surpass the PS2.



The PS2 will ALWAYS have been out longer.... tongue.gif

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SoySauce
I played t he xbox at my friends house, playing HALO. If you ask me, its a prettty good machine, even though it IS Microsoft.
As a computer geek, I wouldnt touch it.
As a video Game freak however, I don't think its that bad. The controller gave me hand cramps, though.

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Gaviiiiin
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Originally posted by Mazca:
Metal Gear Solid 2 is reason enough on it's own to buy a PS2. It is the best console game I have ever played. By far.



Amen. And GTAIII is a pretty good reason too....

--Gav



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Originally posted by Gaviiiiin:
Amen. And GTAIII is a pretty good reason too....

--Gav



Guess what the first two games I bought for my PS2 were...

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Macintosh Man
I can't understand why people say that the graphics on the Xbox are better. I've played Halo, and it's pretty cool, but the graphics are FAR surpassed be Metal Gear Solid 2. Everything there is just a lot smoother, and all the graphics are better.

Also, the Xbox controller is not only ugly, it's hard to use.

Gamecube is pretty cool, but the graphics in some games don't seem to be quite up to par. Rogue Leader for example, would have frame skips while I was playing the demo level at Best Buy. That controller is a lot better than the Xbox, but it still isn't perfect, or even as good as PS2 or even N64.

Just my two cents...

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Deep down inside, though, we all know that the Dreamcast is the only console worth talking about.

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Originally posted by Begemotike:
Deep down inside, though, we all know that the Dreamcast is the only console worth talking about.  



My cousin used to have a Saturn...

Az

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Originally posted by Aben Zin:
My cousin used to have a Saturn...



I still have a SNES and I still play on it

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SuperNova
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Originally posted by Desert-Rat:
I still have a SNES  and I still play on it  



Same here.

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Bobster
I never had such a interest in old systems until now....bring on the Commadores!

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Desert-Rat
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Originally posted by Bobster:
I never had such a interest in old systems until now....bring on the Commadores!



Does you want to buy my IMac Rev B too?

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andiyar
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Originally posted by Aben Zin:
My cousin used to have a Saturn...



I have a Saturn (bad, bad mistake ::shudder:: ). A SNES, a Mega Drive (Genesis to you US types), a PSX, and a N64. I haven't bothered getting any of the newer consoles, firstly because of cash reasons, and secondly because I don't really play games all that much anymore. I still have quite a few unfinished titles lying around on my consoles, as well as a few games yet to finish on my computer....

But if I was going to buy a console....... ah, hell, I dunno. I've always loved Nintendo, but then I have every Bungie game ever released for Mac...... I know! I'll buy a Dual 1Ghz G4, and get Halo when it comes out for Mac! And sooner or later, there's bound to be an emulator for Gamecube and PS2! I'll get them, and then get games! Go me!




-Andiyar

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Dr.Alien
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Check out this article. I'm nt sure why micro$oft thought they could make money in Japan. If stuff like this keeps up there won't be an Xbox 2.

And, if we pray, perhaps there will also be no Windows 2005, buggier than ever.

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Gamecube has already got more preorders than XBOX has sold right now. But I ph33r that this will change I saw that MS had annouced a 40% reducment[sp?] of the price.


Thats because it was 99% overpriced in the first place

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Planet_Buster
Xbox is the worst system ever invented... i'd rather have an original nintendo than an Xbox. why you ask(other than the fact that im an Xbox-hating, anti-Micro$oft, pro-nintendo fanboy )? ill give you some reasons:
1. Xbox has only ONE good game... and i think you know what game im talking about.
2. the controller can only be adequately described by the words "abomination" or "monstrosity". it is practically impossible to use at all, much less with any degree of comfort. plus just look at the buttons on it--i can live with having black and white buttons, but why is the button that should be called "select" named "back"?? wtf is up with that???
3. Xbox is far too expensive. PS2 is the same price, but with PS2 you get what you pay for, and GCN is much cheaper and IMO better.
4. the graphics on Xbox are not better enough than the GCN or PS2 to be noticeable, so it doesnt make a difference.
some game-specific reasons:
1. Halo: the only halfway-decent game on the whole system. but eventually it will be out for mac, and then Xbox will have zero good games, cuz any computer FPS kicks the sorry little crap out of any console FPS. especially with ut2k3 coming out this june, i dont much care about halo anymore(but ill still get it when the mac version comes out of course )
2. Dead or Alive 3: this is pretty much just a rehash of DoA2. while DoA2 was an ok game, DoA3 doesnt really add anything and you have to use the craptastic Xbox controller to play it, which means that it isnt worthwhile.
3. Oddworld: Munchs Oddessy: this game is just flat stupid. im not going to bother elaborating on it.
4. Amped: amped is ok, but SSX tricky is about five times better, and you can play it on GCN or PS2(whichever you prefer) and not have to put up with the Xbox's controller.

oh, and anyone who says GCN doesnt have good games, heres a list: Super Smash Bros Melee, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, SSX Tricky, Star Wars: Rogue Leader, Pikmin, Super Monkey Ball. and soon to come: Mario Sunshine, Perfect Dark Zero, Metroid Prime, Star Fox Adventures, Soul Caliber. read above to discover that Xbox has only one good game. tell me again how Xbox has more good games than GCN?

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Desert-Rat
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Originally posted by Planet_Buster:
Anti XBOX!


Yeah the few GC games are so much better than the xbox game(s)

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Chuckles
I think the company that makes Halo intended for it to be multiplatform, then they were bought by microsoft, killing multiplatform and making them slaves to the evil empire.


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Aben Zin
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Originally posted by Chuckles:
I think the company that makes Halo intended for it to be multiplatform, then they were bought by microsoft, killing multiplatform and making them slaves to the evil empire.  


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If you mean Bungie (and you do), the game was originally intended to ship for the PC and Mac. As it is Bungie are still promicing it for these formats, and -the naive fool that I am- I belive they will hold by their word.
I'm not entirely sure on the latest from Bungie central but I can still hope...

Az

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God, you guys sound like 1st graders fighting over which is best, the blue crayon or the red crayon.

Aren't we all old enough to just let everyone have there own opinion about which console is better. Even if they do think X-Box is better than Gamecube.

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Planet_Buster
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Posted by Mike:
Aren't we all old enough to just let everyone have there own opinion about which console is better. Even if they do think X-Box is better than Gamecube.
NEVER!! Xbox-hating fanboys unite to drive away the corrupted! WAAAAAAAAGH!!!!

[nitpicking]it's "their", not "there", and you need a question mark in there [/nitpicking]

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Originally posted by Planet_Buster:
[nitpicking]it's "their", not "there", and you need a question mark in there   [/nitpicking]

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Man, I try to make a serious post and I screw the whole thing up. Naturally.



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Desert-Rat
I was playing XBOX at my local computer shop yesterday,what does you think happens?
Exactly it crashed and not only does it crash it starts to smell smoke!
Yeah great console you got microsoft

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SuperNova
[quote]Originally posted by Desert-Rat:
I was playing XBOX at my local computer shop yesterday,what does you think happens?
Exactly it crashed and not only does it crash it starts to smell smoke!
Yeah great console you got microsoft   .

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[quote]Originally posted by SuperNova:
I hope that you didn't have to pay for it  

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