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Jive 320
I know many people love and swear by SSB Melee but I don't have a GC. I played a few minutes of it once and though it was a bit fast for my tastes, but I probably just need to get used to it.

Anyways, how many people play the ORIGINAL SSB? I personally think this is the perfection of platform fighting games (without playing SSBM). Staying in the game and winning the game both rely on skill rather than hitting them repeatedly unitl they die. My brother-in-law agrees and bought a cheap N64 for just Super Smash Broters. Though I think the first player needed some work, the multiplayer is solid.

My favorite character would have to be Ness. My favorite way to play is four stock with a Yoshi computer partner against my brother-in-law and his computer partner (his characters range from Link and Fox to Kirby and Pikachu). Though I like to say I am the master of the game, I haven't played many others (due to the fact that many of my friends play PC games or get to frustrated with the SSB concept).

So what do you guys think? Do you like it or do you think the sequel was much better or worse than the original? Or is it just different?

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BattleDoctor
I can't say I've played the sequel, but the original is an excellent game. I've only played it multiplayer at my friend's house so I can't speak for the single player experience but the multiplayer is very fun. Too bad I suck at it so much.

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PyroQuake
The original wasn't bad. The first-player mode sucked, though. Way too short. Still, it was great with 4 players.

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Gopi Dancer
I loved the original Super Smash Brothers. It was so fun to play, even against computer characters. My favorite characters are Kirby and Pikachu.

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Planet_Buster
both SSB and SSBM are great games. i personally prefer the sequel, but as long as we're talking bout the original...
i think one-player was not great, but ok. multiplayer is the point of the game, even if you are the only player
my fav character is definitely Samus. she rox0rs. Captain falcon is also ok. im pretty good at both SSB and SSBM.

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Jive 320
Yeah, I played Samus for the longest time but got hooked on Ness after I unlocked him. Samus's up B move is sooooo fun to annoy the crap out of others with >:-)

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SuperNova
Haven't played the original, but the GC version was good. The best character/map/opponent combo that I found was Kirby on planet Venom against Bowser.

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Bobster
the orginail was the bomb. A classic the first day it was released. Too many tears shed that day....too many bruised fingers....the GC version is great too!

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LoneIgadzra
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Originally posted by Jive 320:
Yeah, I played Samus for the longest time but got hooked on Ness after I unlocked him. Samus's up B move is sooooo fun to annoy the crap out of others with >:-)



Nooooo!!! The world could use less players like you, you evil, evil person!

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Jive 320
[quote]Originally posted by LoneIgadzra:
 Nooooo!!! The world could use less players like you, you evil, evil person!  

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Desert Fox
My friend plays as Samus and does that move constantly. Good thing in meele is taht those moves dont do as much damage. In the original, I propose to you a challenge, one in which I myself have completed. With your best character (mine being Mario), beat a team of 3 level 9 Links with team attack off. This way they cannot hurt one another. I played a 15-stock game (all them had 15 lives as did I). This took me forever and a day to accomplish. Actually it took around an hour (wasnt watching clock) but it felt like forever. After you accomplish this, then you are good enough to face me. I swear by my word that I am untouchable as of late against human players and only level 9 teams really do anything against me anymore. My friends still try, and once in a while they will surprise me, but they dont bet against me anymore, theyve learned not too, and theyve played just as long as me. I bought this game within a week of its release on the 64 and played it a hell of a lot. Id play you all online, if there were a way to do so. This is probably one of the funner games around.

As for Meele, its more of the same. More fun, more action, more boards, and more characters. I played for a week solid and then put it all away for a while, ill let it out in June. I didnt even accomplish half of whats in the game yet.

Oh, and if you do get by my little challenge earlier, try doing the VERY HARD setting in SSB with 1 life and no continues. Also a hard but fun challenge.

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Planet_Buster
i think melee is much better due to more moves, more balanced characters, and more characters. Roy and Marth are awesome.
as for the original smash, i can take out any combination of computer players, no matter what level they are. the computer players in melee are better at the game than those in the original. what were your item settings when you played against the three level nine links?

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Desert Fox
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Originally posted by Planet_Buster:
i think melee is much better due to more moves, more balanced characters, and more characters. Roy and Marth are awesome.  
as for the original smash, i can take out any combination of computer players, no matter what level they are. the computer players in melee are better at the game than those in the original. what were your item settings when you played against the three level nine links?



balanced items dropping, at a low setting. I didnt want items to determine the game but I also didnt want a game without items.

Roy and Marth are good, but they do have severe flaws. Their back defense is laughable and they have no range. They are probably the best meele charactors in the game due to their excellent speed and attack speed but attack from all around them and they will have problems. I do like Roy's smash-up attack. Very effective in keeping people off your head.

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TheDarkDragon
I rented SSB a few times, loads of fun. I never got extremely good at it, but being the best isn't necessarily the point of video games is it? Is it?
Besides, Pikachu was made too powerful, and others had some serious flaws. I haven't tried SSBM, but when I get a GC, you can bet that'll be first on my list.

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theGlueBubble
Question: What the heck is this game you are talking about? The Smash Brothers that I know was a SNES game from times of yore, and featured two player combat where you kill everything that comes on the screen....

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Desert Fox
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Originally posted by TheDarkDragon:
I rented SSB a few times, loads of fun.  I never got extremely good at it, but being the best isn't necessarily the point of video games is it?  Is it?
Besides, Pikachu was made too powerful, and others had some serious flaws.  I haven't tried SSBM, but when I get a GC, you can bet that'll be first on my list.



ummm, pikachu sucked. The only flaw in the game was on Jigglypuff who was the absolute weakest in the game with no real saving grace. Pikachu's lightning strike thingy doesnt affect you if youre under a platform, his jolt doesnt go very far, and his little electric bolts are as slow as fireballs. Pikachu is based on speed and in that he does well, but for a speed character use Fox, at least some of his attacks are strong and his speed is unmatched.

And gluey, SSB is a very fun N64 game where you use a multitude of Nintendo characters such as Mario, Link, Pikachu, Donkey Kong, and others to bash and beat the hell out of one another. SSBM is the Gamecube incarnation of it with more graphics and a hell of a lot more characters/arenas. For a fun time, try these titles out.

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Jackal
The original SSB was cool, but I like SSBM better. SSBM is a lot harder because of all the new doges and things you can do(and the computer can use against you). I also had problems getting used to the new controller after mastering SSB. 1player in SSBM is much better, there are 3 types of fighting modes, event matches(match 51 is a b****, took me a while to beat), home run contest (1992ft. is my high score(I think)), and a mode where you fight these funny little wire frames (Like the polygons in SSB). Multi for SSB is cool there are a s***load of options.

In the original SSB my favorite characters were Luigi,Kirby,Yoshi,and cap'n falcon

In SSBM my favorite characters are (in order of skill with them) Marth, Zelda, Kirby, mewtwo, bowser, ganondorf.

I like how the items in SSBM are nore balanced. The hammer has been toned down and sometimes the top falls off, making you a useless guy running around with a stick. The pokeballs are much more ballanced too, although some are really strong. I still love the home run bat though! Heres a trick that the computer falls for a lot. Get close to them with a homerun bat and do a rolling dodge through their legs, then whack em' with the bat. The computer usually will take long enough to turn around that you can whack em' with the bat before they hit you. This doesnt work well on some of the faster characters though.

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Thunder
I would have to say that Smash Brothers is one of the best games I've ever played for N64. The one player game definately could have used some more work, but multiplayer is just downright fun. My favorite characters are Ness and Pikachu (and I'm decent with Donkey Kong as well).

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Originally posted by Desert Fox:
The only flaw in the game was on Jigglypuff who was the absolute weakest in the game with no real saving grace.


As a computer opponent, I'd have to agree, Jigglypuff is a complete pushover. As a human player, that's not necessarily the case. My brother is amazing with Jigglypuff - especially by attacking from above with that drill-kick move and then knocking lighter characters off the top of the screen before thay can use their shield. This move can be almost as infuriating, if not more so, than Samus's up-B attack.

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Desert Fox
everyone had a drill kick, and I would much prefer Mario or Luigi's uppercut to knock out people then the upperkick Jigglypuff can do.

A funny point, though, is Donkey Kong. Grab people and fall off the side. Quite amusing though useless.

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gamer4life
It was a FREAKIN SWEET GAME BABY BOOOOOYA GRAMA HELL YEA.....though SSBM IS WAY FREAKIN BETTER HELL YEA OMG IM GONNA PASS OUT

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Desert Fox
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Originally posted by gamer4life:
It  was a freakin sweet game baby boooooya grama hell yea.....though SSBM is way  better hell yea man im gonna pass out



first off, welcome to the boards. Second off, all caps will not endear you to the rest of the community, so tone it down a bit. I took the liberty of toning down the message and removing AOLspeak

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See what the boards will do to you gamer4life....just improve your grammar and spelling...I know how you feel but many of of members have been reformed from long stays at AOL communities.... May life be good to you....

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Planet_Buster
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Posted by Desert Fox:
Roy and Marth are good, but they do have severe flaws. Their back defense is laughable and they have no range. They are probably the best meele charactors in the game due to their excellent speed and attack speed but attack from all around them and they will have problems. I do like Roy's smash-up attack. Very effective in keeping people off your head.
"back defense"? what exactly do you mean by that? it is noticeable that they have no ranged attacks, but their infinitely powerful melee abilities and items make up for that, as long as you know how to get close. they have much longer reach in close combat than any other combatant, due to their large swords. anyway, attack anyone from all around and they will have problems. i also like roy's up-smash attack, its quite handy. i also like marth's taunt. mee-tay-te-gray!
oh, just a little team tactic i found that is reasonably reliable(albeit a little cheap ), that works on computer players of any level: have one teammate be roy and the other fox. get the enemy on a flat ledge, and have fox use his blaster attack against them. the computer will just stand their with their shield on(occasionally flickering off), and continue to do so until their shield pops. while they are doing this, have roy stand near them and charge up his flare blade. if you are close enough and you charge up the flare blade all the way, its an automatic KO when it hits, though it does 10% damage to you as well.

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Oedipus
huh, all you people talking 'bout how you beat three level nines in ssb with your one good character(intro for ego-flaring). Howsabout this? I tell my friends to pick the character for me, because well, I can kick anyone's a** with all(especially jigglypuff), I have beaten one player on very hard with one life(with donkey kong for that matter). I have unlocked all you can. In fact, I sold it because I got so bored(that and we don't have a video cable anymore(but that's not the point)). All of you fools who think you're so good are nothing. For three months I spent more time on that game per day than I did interacting with other people(unless they were playing with me). You and all of your pitiful bragging, HA!(okay, I'm done now)

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Desert Fox
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Originally posted by Planet_Buster:
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Posted by Desert Fox:
[b]Roy and Marth are good, but they do have severe flaws. Their back defense is laughable and they have no range. They are probably the best meele charactors in the game due to their excellent speed and attack speed but attack from all around them and they will have problems. I do like Roy's smash-up attack. Very effective in keeping people off your head.
"back defense"? what exactly do you mean by that? it is noticeable that they have no ranged attacks, but their infinitely powerful melee abilities and items make up for that, as long as you know how to get close. they have much longer reach in close combat than any other combatant, due to their large swords. anyway, attack anyone from all around and they will have problems. i also like roy's up-smash attack, its quite handy. i also like marth's taunt. mee-tay-te-gray!
oh, just a little team tactic i found that is reasonably reliable(albeit a little cheap ), that works on computer players of any level: have one teammate be roy and the other fox. get the enemy on a flat ledge, and have fox use his blaster attack against them. the computer will just stand their with their shield on(occasionally flickering off), and continue to do so until their shield pops. while they are doing this, have roy stand near them and charge up his flare blade. if you are close enough and you charge up the flare blade all the way, its an automatic KO when it hits, though it does 10% damage to you as well.

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The defense they pose behind them is laughable. It makes a quick attack behind them really easy. Roy is better, though I like Marth since he is significantly faster. The charge up attack isnt that good since it takes so long, even if its on the ledge.

And Oedipus, try fighting 3 Links, level 9, with team attack off. Ive only done it once since the initial time. There being 3 makes up for their lack of speed, cause their strength almost overwhelms you.


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