I know the idea of a multiplayer EV has been brought up countless times, and if there is a law against it, please lock this topic mods, otherwise I just wanted to get a small discussion about the popularity of a series such as EV multiplayer.
The wild success of online RPG communities are astounding (everquest, asheron's call, dark ages, etc)...however, I really don't like RPG games....but I think if there was a foundation of a strong EV universe, such as Feds vs. Rebs (or more permanent factions like in EVGE proxima, polaris, etc... or Nova, Polaris and Auroran) players could choose a faction to join and there could actually be a leadership hierarchy of hard core players voted into office. Planets could change hands as factions battle for worlds (mind you it would have to be HARD to take a world -- coordinated strike of A LOT of players - leaving other worlds defenseless) you could get spy networks up....people switching sides...and I was saying in a previous topic with War 3, multiplayer is cut throat....and a multiplayer 2D game like EV would be no different. Pirate players could jump unsuspecting players all the time.... (disabled ships would have ot be rescued -- by sending out a text type message of location etc to a friendly player, and destroyed ships would regenerate at a home base planet...)
But if the universe was bigger, missions given out by leaders of clans and factions, and real military style operations are implemented, or if you just decide to be a maurader...hunted by every faction that hates you.... I think I would change my tune when it comes to online RPG games....
What do you think? And is there a game like that already out there?
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There was a topic about someone developing a game like that...but I can't remember where it's gone..it's here on the board somewhere..I'm just too lazy to look for it 
I do agree this is a good idea, but it would be hard to implement. An online EV game where everyone played a role would be very cool to see, but I think the crew programming that would die from sleep deprivation before it was finished.
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I do agree this is a good idea, but it would be hard to implement. An online EV game where everyone played a role would be very cool to see, but I think the crew programming that would die from sleep deprivation before it was finished.
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[quote]Originally posted by Bean *:
There was a topic about someone developing a game like that...but I can't remember where it's gone..it's here on the board somewhere..I'm just too lazy to look for it So on top of having to buy the game, they would have to probably charge each player in order to keep the game alive and running...to pay the programmers and maintain the servers. I would pay it But I don't think ambrosia has any interest in such a risky undertaking....
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There was a topic about someone developing a game like that...but I can't remember where it's gone..it's here on the board somewhere..I'm just too lazy to look for it
So on top of having to buy the game, they would have to probably charge each player in order to keep the game alive and running...to pay the programmers and maintain the servers. I would pay it But I don't think ambrosia has any interest in such a risky undertaking....------------------
As if I couldn't ask for the very thing I was looking for today.... I saw this link on the B&B board... It some kind or cheese EV multiplayer web browser based game, that some dude put together in their spare time... We'll see how it turns out, check it out if you want to.
http://www.stonefire.net/
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http://www.stonefire.net/
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Originally posted by Kuji:
But I don't think ambrosia has any interest in such a risky undertaking....
But I don't think ambrosia has any interest in such a risky undertaking....
unless they had a nice hefty bursary and some extra staffing
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The points you make are valid, but they've been made before, and the invariable response has been that such an undertaking would be of far too enormous a scope for Ambrosia to attempt it.
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Originally posted by shayborg:
The points you make are valid, but they've been made before, and the invariable response has been that such an undertaking would be of far too enormous a scope for Ambrosia to attempt it.
The points you make are valid, but they've been made before, and the invariable response has been that such an undertaking would be of far too enormous a scope for Ambrosia to attempt it.
It's risky, and a big projec, and will never happen anytime soon or ever...I've heard all that....
But the real question I was beating around the bush with....
Do you think that a 2D game like EV could be as popular as other on-line games? It's quite unique.... and single player in EV sucks you in enough as it is...jeez.... I guess we'll see how popular the game can get once it is ported to Windows.
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MMOG version of EV? Well... Yes, it would have been great, but consider the following;
Will Ambrosia have the money to develop it? Will Ambrosia have the money to host it? Will Ambrosia make money on this game? Will the masses buy and play this game, or will it contain but a few loyalists?
Yes, it would be great, but leave it to Andrew to decide; We do not want Ambrosia bankrupt, do we? Say.... EV is well known all over... Maybe they could get Apple to host it for free? Hemmm... mmorpg hosted by Apple, aided in development by Apple, and existing for Windows and Mac simultaneously, HOWEVER, Mac users can play for free after registration, PC users pay a small monthly fee
I like that idea
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Will Ambrosia have the money to develop it? Will Ambrosia have the money to host it? Will Ambrosia make money on this game? Will the masses buy and play this game, or will it contain but a few loyalists?
Yes, it would be great, but leave it to Andrew to decide; We do not want Ambrosia bankrupt, do we? Say.... EV is well known all over... Maybe they could get Apple to host it for free? Hemmm... mmorpg hosted by Apple, aided in development by Apple, and existing for Windows and Mac simultaneously, HOWEVER, Mac users can play for free after registration, PC users pay a small monthly fee
I like that idea
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Originally posted by WebWarrior:
MMOG version of EV? Well... Yes, it would have been great, but consider the following;
Will Ambrosia have the money to develop it? Will Ambrosia have the money to host it? Will Ambrosia make money on this game? Will the masses buy and play this game, or will it contain but a few loyalists?
Yes, it would be great, but leave it to Andrew to decide; We do not want Ambrosia bankrupt, do we? Say.... EV is well known all over... Maybe they could get Apple to host it for free? Hemmm... mmorpg hosted by Apple, aided in development by Apple, and existing for Windows and Mac simultaneously, HOWEVER, Mac users can play for free after registration, PC users pay a small monthly fee
I like that idea
MMOG version of EV? Well... Yes, it would have been great, but consider the following;
Will Ambrosia have the money to develop it? Will Ambrosia have the money to host it? Will Ambrosia make money on this game? Will the masses buy and play this game, or will it contain but a few loyalists?
Yes, it would be great, but leave it to Andrew to decide; We do not want Ambrosia bankrupt, do we? Say.... EV is well known all over... Maybe they could get Apple to host it for free? Hemmm... mmorpg hosted by Apple, aided in development by Apple, and existing for Windows and Mac simultaneously, HOWEVER, Mac users can play for free after registration, PC users pay a small monthly fee
I like that idea
Maybe Andrew should ambush Steve Jobs with a proposition at the next Macworld.....
mmoev would be sooo cool (except for the above points 'bout money and such...)
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For those of you who didn't feel like using the search function, look again:
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I've seen attempts at EV multiplayer games. I've seen them become vaporware. The problem is a lot of ambitious developers see how cool an idea it is (don't get me wrong, it would be AWESOME to play something like EVMP), and start developing it, but as they go along, things get in the way, or problems amount, and eventually projects dissolve. I'm convinced that development of such a game is not trivial and it'll take a team with very good skills to make something like this become a success.
Now, Ambrosia does have a good record of good games by good developers, so who knows, we may see something like this in the future. But even when something like this comes out, I know it won't have been done without a huge amount of effort.
My 3 cents.
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Now, Ambrosia does have a good record of good games by good developers, so who knows, we may see something like this in the future. But even when something like this comes out, I know it won't have been done without a huge amount of effort.
My 3 cents.
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Originally posted by Eytee:
For those of you who didn't feel like using the search function, look again:
homepage.mac.com/farpoint
For those of you who didn't feel like using the search function, look again:
homepage.mac.com/farpoint
very nice indeed
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Online EV wouldn't be EV. It would be fun, no doubting that, but it wouldn't be EV.
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I wouldn't mind just seeing something where people could just duke it out with their ships to see who's ship is better. Ya know, let everyone have a copy of the server or somethin so they can set up their own little star system, then duke it out with their friends. 'course, there would have to be some way to safe guard it from hackers
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Originally posted by EVula:
Online EV wouldn't be EV. It would be fun, no doubting that, but it wouldn't be EV.
Online EV wouldn't be EV. It would be fun, no doubting that, but it wouldn't be EV.
So this is the ___th time you've said this?
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Originally posted by EVula:
Online EV wouldn't be EV. It would be fun, no doubting that, but it wouldn't be EV.
Online EV wouldn't be EV. It would be fun, no doubting that, but it wouldn't be EV.
hmmmm....
If you take games like half life, where there is a strong single player game, and then add the multiplayer element, not much changes to the single player aspect.
It only adds to the longevity of the game by adding more addictive elements to EV
You might not run a single player mission string in an online ever-changing universe....but if you were to build an economic system, have the corresponding outfits sold to the correct factions, or have a blackmarket system. EV could be viable online gaming community. You would build your ship up based on player skill, trading, pirating, or diplomacy. I think it would still retain its character and feel...but it would bring in elements of strategy and wouldn't be so mindless at times. Just imagine a strict play option when you create a multiplayer pilot...oh boy, I smell a challenge ------------------
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Originally posted by Kuji:
If you take games like half life, where there is a strong single player game, and then add the multiplayer element, not much changes to the single player aspect.
If you take games like half life, where there is a strong single player game, and then add the multiplayer element, not much changes to the single player aspect.
It isn't quite that simple. Making EV into a multiplayer game is kind of like fitting a square peg into a round hole (or is it the other way around?). Anyway, in order to make it work, a number of fundamental changes to the game would be necessary, such as the ones you have suggested in this topic. The end result might work, and may weel be a fun, successful game, but it would hardly be recognizable as Escape Velocity, which, I think, is what EVula was getting at.
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Actually, there is an MMORPG game out there faintly similar to EV; "Earth And Beyond". It is published (soon) by EA though it is as of yet, in it's beta stages. The game is sort of like EV, only with some differences;
But it is not EV. I would love to be able to fly longer, and perhaps get a carrier. I would love to send my minions of doom upon unexpected bases and get them to pay me tribute. I would love to capture NPCs and use them as escorts. I would also like to get a forklift, but that's another story. But I can't. I can't do any such thing...
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- Lacks different shiptypes. You have a set of 6 castes split on 3 races. Each has ONE ship. You can get upgrades for it, but... well...
- weapons selections are poorer than EV. (but you can build your own ones, but not design them yourself, naturally)
- the caste system limits you to a certain extent. You can't start out a trader and end up a warrior. It is also harder to chose sides.
But it is not EV. I would love to be able to fly longer, and perhaps get a carrier. I would love to send my minions of doom upon unexpected bases and get them to pay me tribute. I would love to capture NPCs and use them as escorts. I would also like to get a forklift, but that's another story
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Thanks WebWarrior. I signed up for the beta, and this game looks very very promising. Your post made my useless topic all worth it, and gave me exactly what I was hoping for
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It should be possible, but ASW would have to charge monthly-rates to run a MMORPG server. It would be an enormously-successfull game and could net ASW big bucks, but would require considerable investment for the beginning.
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Originally posted by Kuji:
As if I couldn't ask for the very thing I was looking for today. We'll see how it turns out, check it out if you want to.
http://www.stonefire.net/
As if I couldn't ask for the very thing I was looking for today. We'll see how it turns out, check it out if you want to.
http://www.stonefire.net/
This is, indeed a start to a great multiplayer EVN, but I am compelled to agree with Firebird when he said that it would take a full team and considerable resources to really pull it off. 2 teenagers making updates on the weekends probably won't cut it, but its a damn good start. Try it out!!
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